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Spoilers Avengers: Endgame grade and discussion thread

How do you rate Avengers: Endgame?


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Removing a stone from the timeline creates branch timelines (the Ancient One specifically says this) Thanos and all his people came from a branch timeline created after the Avengers stole the power stone. This branch timeline was then prevented from existing at all when Steve returned the power stone at the end of the movie. Thanos and his army were just killed, and there is no timeline in existence that ever missed them.
That makes sense too.
 
Damn...

Avengers: Endgame” has crossed the $2 billion mark at the global box office in record time and is leaving newcomers in its dust.

“Endgame” is one of 5 movies to ever reach that mark and, not accounting for inflation, is now the second biggest film of all time worldwide behind “Avatar’s” $2.8 billion. “Avatar” reached $2 billion in 47 days of release compared with 11 for “Endgame.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aven...-record-box-office_n_5ccf1213e4b0548b735bbe8d
 
It was not Steve, since elderly Peggy (in The Winter Soldier), would have mentioned something so consequential instead of pressing Steve to move on with his life as if the past unfolded without him.
I'm pretty sure he would have told her that she couldn't have told anyone, even his thawed out self, about him being alive. She seems smart enough to listen to him, and not screw up the timeline by telling the other him.
 
I think the Ancient One said that the stones had to be returned to their proper timeline. Did she say they had to be returned to the exact same place and the exact same person?

Also-- the Russo Brothers say that the stones still exist in the main MCU timeline.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/screen...ector-russos-infinity-stones-still-exist/amp/

She said 'point' irrc, not 'place'. 10:53 in Moscow is as good as 10:53 moscow time on Titan.

Also - I pretty much expected the stones weren't truly destroyed. I still say the soul stone story many expected in Endgame will happen in Guardians Vol. 3.
 
i have no problem with female superheroes. just like i have no problem with diversity. But when you add the word "forced" in front of it, that's my problem. you don't think i'd mind if Thor can Captain Marvel were actually shows fighting together in a cool shot? no i wouldn't.
no but that shot went out of tis way to scream its message

Yet, put ten dudes on screen together and it is not forced?
 
Yet, put ten dudes on screen together and it is not forced?
Depends how it’s done.

When Pepper, Valkyrie, Vers, Shuri and Okoye we’re rescuing Peter and the Stones, it didn’t seem forced, but that two-second shot where every named female heroine in the battle suddenly showed up was indeed forced.

But given how girls and young women have reacted to it, I think it was forced for a good reason. It certainly doesn’t make me angry, like it seems to make some people.

BTW, is Pepper still using the Potts surname, or is she Pepper Stark now?
 
Scattered into atoms, which is how Thanos left them. Apparently this is enough to keep the timeline from disintegrating, but they’re probably not usable.
Yes, scattered into atoms and unusable... until they're not.;)

In either case, I'd really rather that the stones themselves be laid to rest as story devices. However, I found the energy wave that Rocket detected that enveloped the planet by way of Thanos' use of the gauntlet to be very interesting.

In my mind's eye, I see that energy wave activating thousands of x genes across the planet and Professor Charles Xavier lamenting that mutants would no longer be able to keep their existence a secret.

I see Reed Richards (now the smartest man on the planet?) trying to recreate the energy wave with dreams of advancing science and bringing humanity to the stars. (Stone energies have been the source of three characters powers so far, I would have no problem with cosmic rays being replaced in the same way for the Fantastic Four)

And I see Victor von Doom hoping to recreate the power of the energy wave as part of his quest to free the soul of his mother from a torturous hell dimension. (What could possibly go wrong?)
 
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Sigh.. I am all for equal representation. Equal is the key word here. I get it, women have been under represented for decades. But you don't fix that by going completely to the other end of the scale. You don't fix ANY problem by going to the extremes. I really don't mind if the she is the next Iron Man of the MCU, the actual and spiritual leader of the Avengers. But I hope she doesn't get her way and get's a 100% female movie. That's not the right solution.

I'm sure that they will include a token male member (:biggrin:) to help you better identify with the movie and provide a suitable romantic interest for the lead female character--that way you will be more likely to sit through the movie when your girlfriend drags you to see it.
 
I'm sure that they will include a token male member (:biggrin:) to help you better identify with the movie and provide a suitable romantic interest for the lead female character--that way you will be more likely to sit through the movie when your girlfriend drags you to see it.
The token should be Everett Ross. He’s used to it.
 
You're actually the one who seems to be obsessed with gender. It's only equality to you if you're in the lead. True equality would be a male superhero for every single female superhero. There would also be a lot more heroes of other races, some LGBTQ heroes who have yet to appear in any film, and a lot fewer white men because they are far from the majority in terms of the population.

Also, take in to account that over the past ten years the MCU has been predominantly white male main characters. Phase IV will have the MCU trying to balance the scales a little, but can you imagine the reaction if the MCU had a goal to have fifty percent of their heroes be female? That would mean ten years of women being leads in the MCU.
 
Also, take in to account that over the past ten years the MCU has been predominantly white male main characters. Phase IV will have the MCU trying to balance the scales a little, but can you imagine the reaction if the MCU had a goal to have fifty percent of their heroes be female? That would mean ten years of women being leads in the MCU.
I’d get my beloved Squirrel Girl movie. I have a pitch for it, it’s like the Wizard of Oz with Deadpool and Tobey Maguire in a mystery role.
 
I think the Ancient One said that the stones had to be returned to their proper timeline. Did she say they had to be returned to the exact same place and the exact same person?

All that matters is that the stones exist in the universe. That's why it doesn't matter be that to the tesseract and scepter were destroyed. Cap will put the stones back, and those timeline will continue, diverging from the original.

Yet, put ten dudes on screen together and it is not forced?

The problem isn't that it was a group of female heroes, or even that it was 10 female heroes. The problem is that it was ALL the female heroes that were present at the battle. None of them were busy fighting on the other side of the battle, and they all noticed Marvel needed backup, and decided to go help at the same time, oh and none of the guy heroes noticed anything. Yeah that makes complete logical sense and doesn't break suspension of disbelief at all.
 
When The Ancient One was talking about the stones being removed from the time and all of the effect, I had thought that had been just a general thing, and didn't just apply to the stones.
 
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