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TMP was one of the last films to have an overture played before the film to give the audience time to be seated, in place of the ads and trailers we have today.

When I saw the film at a local (Brooklyn NY) theater about two weeks after the premier, I recall seeing trailers for Electric Horseman, 1941, and an advert for Busch Gardens. I have no memory of the overture. It would seem that Paramount made different prints available to theaters.
Or some overzealous projectionist cut off "all of that black leader".

Neil
 
You'd think they'd release a branching version so that you could select any of the three.

Alternatively, I'd like a 'complete' version with everything in.
I remember when the branching function was this fancy new thing with so much potential. Has it been used much on recent releases?

Kor
 
Well, maybe they did both trailers and the overture.

Of course, trailers originally came after the film, which is why they're called that.
When did they start preceding the film? Probably by the '50s -- after all they are also known as "Coming Attractions".

In any case, I don't recall the overture, although it's (slightly) possible I've forgotten about it.
 
When did they start preceding the film? Probably by the '50s -- after all they are also known as "Coming Attractions".

Huh? That's got nothing to do with whether they're shown before or after the film. It means films that are upcoming in the future, that haven't been released yet. That's what trailers have always been for.

Anyway, here's an in-depth article on the history of movie trailers:

http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/...story-movie-trailers-mad-max-independence-day
 
Thanks for the article link. I don't see any reference in it to when trailers began preceding the films (unless I missed it while reading quickly).
 
When I saw the film at a local (Brooklyn NY) theater about two weeks after the premier, I recall seeing trailers for Electric Horseman, 1941, and an advert for Busch Gardens. I have no memory of the overture. It would seem that Paramount made different prints available to theaters.

Some cinemas simply choose to "fast forward" through the leaderstrip with the overture stripe.

I hadn't realised the movie even had an overture at first. I assumed the theatre in Sydney was just piping "Ilia's Theme" through the cinema and its corridors. You could hear the music down the curtained art-deco walkways, in the restrooms and around the candy bar.
 
I hadn't realised the movie even had an overture at first. I assumed the theatre in Sydney was just piping "Ilia's Theme" through the cinema and its corridors. You could hear the music down the curtained art-deco walkways, in the restrooms and around the candy bar.

It was already a rare practice by then. Though I think The Black Hole from the same year had an overture too.
 
On a similar token, who did the voice on Spock’s thruster suit? Was that Majel? Sounds kind of like her. (79 and 83 editions at least - I don’t remember if that was changed in the directors version).
 
Huh? That's got nothing to do with whether they're shown before or after the film. It means films that are upcoming in the future, that haven't been released yet. That's what trailers have always been for.
I think everyone and their children are aware of the purpose of trailers. The question is about when did the standard practice of having trailers after the movie switch to having the trailers before the movie instead?
 
I for one prefer the traditional TOS red alert klaxon in the DE over the cheesy "RED. ALERT. RED. ALERT." from the original.
 
On a similar token, who did the voice on Spock’s thruster suit? Was that Majel? Sounds kind of like her. (79 and 83 editions at least - I don’t remember if that was changed in the directors version).

Eddie Egan recently told us on the TMP Appreciation Page, to our surprise, that the Spock Walk thruster suit voice was Majel's. (I recall Majel mentioning that, when she came to recording her computer voiceovers for TNG each session, it took her some time to remember how she did the voice for TOS.)

The male TMP computer voice was Doug Hale. He was replaced for the DE.

IIRC, the voice of the Starfleet transporter receiving station ("What we got back didn't live long, fortunately...") was the film's editor, Todd Ramsay.
 
Yes!
Eddie Egan recently told us on the TMP Appreciation Page, to our surprise, that the Spock Walk thruster suit voice was Majel's. (I recall Majel mentioning that, when she came to recording her computer voiceovers for TNG each session, it took her some time to remember how she did the voice for TOS.)

The male TMP computer voice was Doug Hale. He was replaced for the DE.

IIRC, the voice of the Starfleet transporter receiving station ("What we got back didn't live long, fortunately...") was the film's editor, Todd Ramsay.

That is pretty cool that she was in there! In my personal head-cannon, that was the actual boi e of the enterprise computer, and the “Doug Hale” voice was a “temp track” put in place by space dock to ready the ship for launch, and shortly after TMP the “Majel” computer voice / program was installed.

Wonder why they just didn’t have her record all the computer dialog for TMP.
 
Wonder why they just didn’t have her record all the computer dialog for TMP.

I guess they thought the Doug Hale voice would give the scenes a different tone, which they did. The countdown of the temperature in the sonic shower and the "Negative control at helm" lines were particularly effective. For me.

As a newbie Trekker catching up on TOS over the next few years, I often found Majel's TOS commuter voice to be annoying, but she really perfected the art in TNG and DS9. Lwaxana Troi talking to the Holodeck computer was hilarious.
 
Wonder why they just didn’t have her record all the computer dialog for TMP.

Probably because Robert Wise was not motivated by nostalgia. His brief was to reinvent Star Trek for the big screen, to rethink every aspect of it.

Besides, the reason Roddenberry cast Barrett as the computer voice was probably because she was his mistress and he wanted to include her (or she wanted to be included) in everything he did. The recurring voice role let him do that in episodes without Chapel. But Chapel was in TMP, so there was no need to double her up as the computer.

Note that none of the first six movies used Barrett as a computer voice, aside from the TMP thruster suit. It was Marcy Vosburgh in TWOK, and TSFS uses several different Starfleet computer voices, including future DS9 computer voice Judi Durand, Harve Bennett, Leonard Nimoy, and Nimoy's assistant Teresa E. Victor. (So it seems like they pretty much grabbed whoever was available to loop a few lines and didn't consider voice casting all that important.) The reason we think of Barrett as the "essential" computer voice now is because she reprised the role in TNG onward. At the time the original movies were made, that perception wasn't there yet, at least not among the filmmakers.
 
Probably because Robert Wise was not motivated by nostalgia. His brief was to reinvent Star Trek for the big screen, to rethink every aspect of it.

Besides, the reason Roddenberry cast Barrett as the computer voice was probably because she was his mistress and he wanted to include her (or she wanted to be included) in everything he did. The recurring voice role let him do that in episodes without Chapel. But Chapel was in TMP, so there was no need to double her up as the computer.

Note that none of the first six movies used Barrett as a computer voice, aside from the TMP thruster suit. It was Marcy Vosburgh in TWOK, and TSFS uses several different Starfleet computer voices, including future DS9 computer voice Judi Durand, Harve Bennett, Leonard Nimoy, and Nimoy's assistant Teresa E. Victor. (So it seems like they pretty much grabbed whoever was available to loop a few lines and didn't consider voice casting all that important.) The reason we think of Barrett as the "essential" computer voice now is because she reprised the role in TNG onward. At the time the original movies were made, that perception wasn't there yet, at least not among the filmmakers.
There is an authoritative edge to Barrett's voice when she plays the computer that the other voice actors seem to lack, often going for a more hypnotic albeit robotic HAL type performance. I liked her voice the best.

I like the way Chapel delivers her technobabble in TMP too. She sounds like she's in charge.
 
I thought the thruster pack voice sounded more like a recording than a computer generated voice. It has a sheen of salesmanship to it that Trek computers usually lack. "Congratulations for purchasing your Wise 8100 Emergency Evacuation Thruster Pack, the premiere single-use personal propulsion equipment for the 2270s."
 
I actually like The way Majel did the computer voice in TMP. Kind of a halfway bridge between the TOS and TNG computer voices. Has enough of an artificial cadence without the over-exaggerated “I-AM-A-COM-PU-TOR” mechanical speaking used to depict computer voices in the 60s”

Putting aside nostalgia for Majel Barrett, my favorite Enterprise computer voice the one used for the self-destruct sequence in TSFS. Perhaps it was the echoing effect added, but to me it was simultaneously warm, authoritative, and just a little ominous. With just a few words, it immediately seemed like THE enterprise computer voice - not just another of the many coices used for the computer. Somehow it seemed like that was the true voice that had always been there (at least in the refit Enterprise)
 
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