Really--how this should have ended--would have been with Arya flying through the air (roll credits)
Cersi then sees Jon, Dany, and all the mains as wights as they all marched to Kings Landing.
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Really--how this should have ended--would have been with Arya flying through the air (roll credits)
Cersi then sees Jon, Dany, and all the mains as wights as they all marched to Kings Landing.
Not sure that being inspired by a historical event means that you're forced to bring your imaginary story to a similar conclusion (at all). It was the jumping off point, perhaps. Sure England would have liked a wall, but while the Scots are a bit wild, they (as far as I know) aren't undead wights either...
The Scots are wild all right, wild...lings? 
The White Walkers are something,... Other. 
Obviously the show's not beholden to a similar conclusion just because of inspiration, I just kind of like the idea Sansa and Tyrion running things anyway. It just happens to nicely dovetail with a silly insistence that the inspiration should dictate focus of the show.
The White Walkers are something,... Other. Obviously the show's not beholden to a similar conclusion just because of inspiration, I just kind of like the idea Sansa and Tyrion running things anyway. It just happens to nicely dovetail with a silly insistence that the inspiration should dictate focus of the show.
A fascinating theory about Azar Ahai from io9's Beth Elderkin:
I could see this happening. It's just twisted and heartbreaking enough to follow Martin's modus operandi.
Picture this: After losing the battle, Daenerys is brought before King Jon Snow (or King Aegon Targaryen) at the Dragonpit and sentenced to die for treason. Ned Stark, the only father Jon knew, taught him that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword, so he chooses to be the one to execute her. Luckily for Jon, he’s recently been given a gift. The reforged sword of Ned Stark. It could be crafted with Oathkeeper and Widow’s Wail, if Brienne of Tarth and Jaime Lannister return the swords (or if they die)—or Longclaw could be included, to substitute one of them. That would make it the third iteration of this sword. And remember: Its name is Ice.
Face-to-face with the woman he loves, Jon finds he cannot behead Daenerys. Instead, he stabs her through the heart. The sword emerges from her chest coated in flames, as Jon brings back Lightbringer through sacrificing his true love. But the magic of the Valyrian steel, combined with Daenerys’ internal fire, has a side effect. It doesn’t just kill her, it transforms her into something else, something...Other. The prophecy of Azor Ahai has been fulfilled, with Lightbringer arriving to stop the darkness, but it has also created the very problem it was designed to save the world from.
The long summer has truly ended, and a Long Night is ahead. A winter to last a generation. Daenerys Targaryen has become the Night Queen: Born in both ice and flame. A Song of Ice and Fire.
Face-to-face with the woman he loves, Jon finds he cannot behead Daenerys. Instead, he stabs her through the heart. The sword emerges from her chest coated in flames, as Jon brings back Lightbringer through sacrificing his true love. But the magic of the Valyrian steel, combined with Daenerys’ internal fire, has a side effect. It doesn’t just kill her, it transforms her into something else, something...Other. The prophecy of Azor Ahai has been fulfilled, with Lightbringer arriving to stop the darkness, but it has also created the very problem it was designed to save the world from.
The long summer has truly ended, and a Long Night is ahead. A winter to last a generation. Daenerys Targaryen has become the Night Queen: Born in both ice and flame. A Song of Ice and Fire.
That sounds like a bad fanfic to me to be honest.
I don't recall if the name Azor Ahai and the heartstabby part of his legend have even been mentioned on the show, and the whole prophecy thing has been rather downplayed on the show over the years, so I'm not holding out hope that this will be addressed in any meaningful way until the books come out.
An analogy occurred to me between the way the Night King died and the way Gus Fring died in Breaking Bad.
They exposed themselves to danger unnecessarily, because of their emotional need to personally execute a wheelchair-bound person.
They exposed themselves to danger unnecessarily, because of their emotional need to personally execute a wheelchair-bound person.
Daeny and Jon did what the Lord of Light needed.
He's done.
He's done.
What did Jon actually do?
Regretting watching this episode on now tv
Regretting watching this episode on now tv
Besides bringing an army together, riding a dragon into battle, fighting countless zombies by himself, confronting a dragon, coming up with a battle plan that worked? What more do you want the guy to do?
His plan half worked... The Night King was NOT killed by dragon fire.
His goal was to kill the Night King and end the threat.... Which.... let me turn up the brightness a little... oh, look. Goal achieved.
Besides, it wouldn't really be exciting drama if plans succeeded 100%.
Yep, he also said that it wasn't a "Choose Your Own Adventure" story.
If the Night King hadn't been there, the wights would have lost almost immediately. He needed the cloud cover to prevent the dragons from taking them out, and then to provide that second wave when the humans were winning toward the end.
That's a relief!!! I didn't take that post as a spoiler originally but the later debate and a couple of other references forced me to stop reading and skip to the end.
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All of the white walkers have been shown to be able to generate storms and control the wights not just the night king
Also even if he had to be there, he didn't need to go after Bran himself.
Daenerys has green eyes, doesn't she ?
In the show, she does, but 1) I don't understand where all this sudden hating on Dany has come from and 2) it seems pretty obvious that Cersei is the owner of the "green eyes" from Melisandre's prophecy.
That's your fault, because you could've fixed the brightness on your TV (assuming you watched it on a TV).
Is anybody other than me curious as to exactly when and how Melisandre realized the truth about her prophecy to Arya? Because it seems pretty clear from her actions in Seasons 4, 5, 6, and 7 that she didn't understand the true import of what she'd told Arya during those seasons or else she wouldn't have made the mistakes that she did.
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