Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season
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Yeah, I even said it was a record when all platforms were taken into account...
The Arya/Hound/Gendry scene didn't accomplish anything that couldn't have been accomplished through "background dialogue", especially when there's a ton of story left to tell and the show only has only six hours+ left in which to tell said story.
So, I'm assuming that you've never heard the term "Show, don't tell" when it comes to screenplay development, then?
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Meh--I disagree. I enjoyed the scene AND I think it dropped a few breadcrumbs.
Again, it's about the emotional connections. I'm sorry it didn't resonate with you but it clearly did with a lot of us.
Indeed. 
That was a lot of fun to watch. Cool that George Lucas visited the set and talked with the cast and crew. That clearly meant a lot to people there.
Poor Kit Harrington. Riding the buck literally by his balls.
They really love setting people actually on fire. That's a really scare stunt to do and the stunt man took it with aplomb.
At some point, "Tell, don't show" becomes a necessary thing, and I think with some of this episode, it did.
There's no way you could know that. Until we see how Arya's story plays out over the remaining episodes, there's no way to know if that scene had value or not yet. Reconnecting to the people she has left behind could be meaningless to Arya, or it could be the crux of whatever lies in store for her. This is you projecting your own ideas into the show without cause.
On the contrary. Given the way the scene between Sam and Jon was written and filmed, NOT addressing these things would be a massive failure of storytelling at this late hour.
That sequence is yet another callback to the very first episode. Ned hears from the Lady (Catelyn) Stark that he shouldn't be quick to do a thing. But then a fat, bearded man (King Robert) who is a good friend finds him in the crypt beneath Winterfell and issues a clear call to duty. Jon hears from a Lady (Sansa) Stark that he shouldn't be quick to do a thing. But then a fat, bearded man (Sam) who is a good friend finds him in the crypt beneath Winterfell and issues a clear call to duty. True, in Ned's case his wife and the king were on opposite sides of the issue, while in Jon's Sansa and Sam are making more or less the same case. But the parallel is too striking to be anything but intentional. And just as Ned was forced to answer when Robert came calling, Jon is bound by his code to do the same with Sam's call.
Add in the fact that every surviving Stark EXCEPT Jon has had to grapple with the choice between being a Stark and being something else in their arcs throughout the show. (I could go into more detail here, but Sansa and Arya both stepped back when they realized that something else meant abandoning everything they are. Bran went through with it and lost the person he used to be completely.) Is Jon a wolf or a dragon? Is there a middle ground, a needle he can thread where the others didn't? To bring up these issues, in this way, demands that they be acknowledged and addressed.
Even if you don't think there is time. (You may be right, by the by. The ending seems like it will almost certainly be rushed and unfulfilling at this point. But until we know what that ending actually is, it's premature to say anything either way.)
Nah. They did fine.
They were other scene that could have been trimmed or left out before there was any need to trim or leave out the Arya/Gendry/Hound scene such as the scene with the whores where we learned that Ginger Eddie (Ed Sheeran) had survived the battle with his eyelids burned off.
At least episode 1 was the shortest of all of them. Some of the others are near-feature-film length w/ 70-80 minute running times. This is going to be one hell of a ride.
Hardhome made a lot more impression on me. At this point I can't remember what Sam killed. But now I have to think Jon is incompetent at fighting, the one thing he was acknowledged to be good at. Because he should have handed those dragonglass daggers out at the first alarm, not waited until they broke in to go looking for them.
Next one is under an hour too, and judging by the trailer, nothing happens either.
I would not say nothing will happen.
Jaime will have to plead his case, Jon will have to tell Daenerys his true parentage; possible Jon, Sansa and Arya will go into the crypt; Sam will give Heartsbane to Jorah; Edd, Beric and the Night Watch will arrive at Winterfell; possibly Melisandre might arrive at Winterfell; preparations will continue; and the last scene will probably be the arrival of the Army of the Dead
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I wonder if there's a case to be made for people to stop clock watching. This notion of wasting time when we only have approx. 6 1/2 hours left of GoT is a tad disconcerting.
All I'm saying is that we don't know the story the show runners have plotted. Maybe they only need what's left to tell the story they want to in as satisfying a fashion as they envisage. Because of the all the hype re: episode 3 I think some might be jumping the gun that it will conclude the Walker story line and the rest is Cersei. Now, it *could* be, but I'm not going to jump the gun on that one. I suspect episode 3 may shatter the Westerosi landscape - both literally and politically - and have upended any expectations we had about how much time we have left. Hell, if the battle is as devastating as can be imagined, another 3 80 minutes episodes might seem like filler.
Whether they wrapped everything up satisfactorily or not is something we'll only be able to tell after episode 6.
All I'm saying is that we don't know the story the show runners have plotted. Maybe they only need what's left to tell the story they want to in as satisfying a fashion as they envisage. Because of the all the hype re: episode 3 I think some might be jumping the gun that it will conclude the Walker story line and the rest is Cersei. Now, it *could* be, but I'm not going to jump the gun on that one. I suspect episode 3 may shatter the Westerosi landscape - both literally and politically - and have upended any expectations we had about how much time we have left. Hell, if the battle is as devastating as can be imagined, another 3 80 minutes episodes might seem like filler.
Whether they wrapped everything up satisfactorily or not is something we'll only be able to tell after episode 6.
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