I don't think they're going to rewrite the 23rd century. Discovery is going to go to the future and that brings it in line with canon. Spock doesn't have a sister at that time and Starfleet doesn't have a spore drive. I don't think there's anything more to it than that.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x13 - "Such Sweet Sorrow"
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I don't believe they hired Rebecca Romijn for the five minutes of screen time she's had so far. Or credited a random extra as Yeoman Colt just to impress some geeks. Or built that massive bridge for two episodes. Or introduced a second engineer to the series for the hell of it. Or established that Culber's moving to the Enterprise next season because they don't want Wilson Cruz on the show anymore.
I really enjoyed seeing Burnham come to the realization that they needed to stop fighting against the Sphere Data and start working with it to protect the data. Seems the path of least resistance, and equally effective (if not more so)!
Something caught my ear at the start, and it was a moment that gave me pause. Burnham states an important assumption in her personal log, "Discovery contains the one thing in all the galaxy that CONTROL needs: the data to become fully-conscious." This is definitely what they've been led to believe, but we have more information than they do. We've seen Calypso. We know that Discovery becomes (at least by all appearances) fully-conscious, and seemingly a very human one at that. Not evil, not bent on destroying all life. It's dutiful, compassionate, and complex. Given what we now know, it's likely that the data Discovery contains played a role in this transformation.
Could it be that the interpretations based on the tiny, disjointed slivers of the future that both the Discovery crew and Doctor Burnham are operating from are incorrect? Could it be that stranding Discovery and all of that data is the factor which allows CONTROL to run away into madness, rather than becoming tempered by those millennia of memories and observations?
I'm really hoping that they manage to resolve the conflict with CONTROL and avoid the dystopic V'draysh future Craft mentioned.
Something caught my ear at the start, and it was a moment that gave me pause. Burnham states an important assumption in her personal log, "Discovery contains the one thing in all the galaxy that CONTROL needs: the data to become fully-conscious." This is definitely what they've been led to believe, but we have more information than they do. We've seen Calypso. We know that Discovery becomes (at least by all appearances) fully-conscious, and seemingly a very human one at that. Not evil, not bent on destroying all life. It's dutiful, compassionate, and complex. Given what we now know, it's likely that the data Discovery contains played a role in this transformation.
Could it be that the interpretations based on the tiny, disjointed slivers of the future that both the Discovery crew and Doctor Burnham are operating from are incorrect? Could it be that stranding Discovery and all of that data is the factor which allows CONTROL to run away into madness, rather than becoming tempered by those millennia of memories and observations?
I'm really hoping that they manage to resolve the conflict with CONTROL and avoid the dystopic V'draysh future Craft mentioned.
This. It's not going to be grand reset. Discovery goes to the future and the 23rd century continues as we know it does.
But, I think it's Ash. That's another twist coming.
Knowing your comments on this board, yeah, you probably *won't* like it. Best not to watch. (Yeah, that'll happen!)
I like your ideas. I can see it going that way somehow. But, how do the crew get to Discovery if they're not already on board? I guess we'll find out!
Is this the first time they have said "Mirror Universe" on screen? It obviously wasn't said on the TOS episode. I think in DS9 they kept referring to it as "alternate universe". And in ENT MU episodes we didn't see any prime characters.
Anyway it was neat that Pike already knew about MU and Georgiou.
Anyway it was neat that Pike already knew about MU and Georgiou.
That's not going to happen. But they will show 2 more Short Treks (animated ones) to keep the subscriptions going a while longer.
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The Enterprise bridge is metal construct, meaning that it can take a lot of abuse. My guess is that, if there is no Pike series on the horizon, it spends off production time as a tourist attraction. Should pay itself off in no time.
I now think Control has nothing to do with the Borg. That's only wishful thinking on the part of some Berman Trekkers.
I also don't think they'll wipe out the last two seasons of DSC. CBSAA has set up their 23rd Century and will want to use what they've set up in future series, even if it's not Discovery. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone through the effort of trying to explain why Spock and Sarek don't interact with each other, Pike wouldn't keep bringing up not using holocommunicators, and they wouldn't be trying to take Discovery and its Spore Drive out of the 23rd Century Picture. If they were just going to reset everything, there would be no need to do any of this.
Kurtzman has a long-term plan for what he wants to do. He's not bending over because he dropped the soap and he's not going to be the vocal naysayers' new punk.
I also don't think they'll wipe out the last two seasons of DSC. CBSAA has set up their 23rd Century and will want to use what they've set up in future series, even if it's not Discovery. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone through the effort of trying to explain why Spock and Sarek don't interact with each other, Pike wouldn't keep bringing up not using holocommunicators, and they wouldn't be trying to take Discovery and its Spore Drive out of the 23rd Century Picture. If they were just going to reset everything, there would be no need to do any of this.
Kurtzman has a long-term plan for what he wants to do. He's not bending over because he dropped the soap and he's not going to be the vocal naysayers' new punk.
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Language? Number one said something about "the shit hitting the fan".
Eh, I think that’s exactly why. She’s been on the show several times already as nameless characters.
I agree. I think Discovery goes into the future, but there's no timeline reset. I'm not sure how I feel about jumping ahead in time, but it's definitely preferable to the Star Trek equivalent of Bobby Ewing in the shower.
They really toned down the spore drive FX
https://twitter.com/trekcore/status/1116568942418378752?s=21
A lot less lightning
https://twitter.com/trekcore/status/1116568942418378752?s=21
A lot less lightning
I agree with your ratings. I gave it an 8 too. I can't really say I've seen a 10 yet in this series, although I have given it a couple 9's (Magic and Calypso.)
Watching Discovery use the spore drive NEVER gets old. Hands down the best 'super FTL drive' effect trek has ever done.
