I think its Los Fransisco.
Just like Gotham is New Chicagtroit.
Star City is Seattle by way of Mad Max.
Supergirl - Season Four
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I think its Los Fransisco.
Just like Gotham is New Chicagtroit.
Star City is Seattle by way of Mad Max.
Nightwing and Power Girl have also visited New York.
In principle, Clark lying about his identity and then leveraging that knowledge to gain employment isn't the same as what President Not Wonder Woman did. In a way it's worse and in a way, not so much.
For Clark, he took direct advantage of his secret to get his foot in the door. For the former President, there was no leveraging of that secret to gain an unfair advantage, only an omission of the full facts.
However the gains of each situation are of a significantly different order of magnitude. All Clark got was a modest paycheck and his foot in the door. He still had to be a good reporter, a competent writer and not solely focused on cranking out Superman articles. Being President on the other hand means access to all kinds of privileged information, influence and power on an international scale.
It all really comes down to an old fashioned "ends justify the means" argument, what are always subjective.
For Clark, he took direct advantage of his secret to get his foot in the door. For the former President, there was no leveraging of that secret to gain an unfair advantage, only an omission of the full facts.
However the gains of each situation are of a significantly different order of magnitude. All Clark got was a modest paycheck and his foot in the door. He still had to be a good reporter, a competent writer and not solely focused on cranking out Superman articles. Being President on the other hand means access to all kinds of privileged information, influence and power on an international scale.
It all really comes down to an old fashioned "ends justify the means" argument, what are always subjective.
I did notice he only seems to be attracted to the female relatives of people in his life...that's a little "off", no? I mean once is just once. Twice is a coincidence, but three times? That's a pattern.
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I don't think Jimmy is aware that he is a garbage person, but comics had him paired with Talia Al Gul, in exposition recently. I don't read enough Superman to know if that's more than a hilarious one line joke. Sorry.
I just want to know what Lena is going to do to James after he cheats on her too? Because it's not smart to piss off a billionaire. Suddenly the bank is foreclosing on everything you and your family own, you're on a no fly list, and hundreds of random strangers are paid to spit on you and your food, daily.
Fake identity.
There is nothing illegal about Clark working at the daily planet until Perry White writes him a check, and then it's tax fraud.
President Marsdin is not a naturally born citizen, and her oath into office is taken using a name that is not legally her own, unless she was born in America. If Marsden is second generation Durlan, then there was nothing illegal about her presidency, as long as her parents did everything that they were supposed to do when she was a baby.
I just want to know what Lena is going to do to James after he cheats on her too? Because it's not smart to piss off a billionaire. Suddenly the bank is foreclosing on everything you and your family own, you're on a no fly list, and hundreds of random strangers are paid to spit on you and your food, daily.
Fake identity.
There is nothing illegal about Clark working at the daily planet until Perry White writes him a check, and then it's tax fraud.
President Marsdin is not a naturally born citizen, and her oath into office is taken using a name that is not legally her own, unless she was born in America. If Marsden is second generation Durlan, then there was nothing illegal about her presidency, as long as her parents did everything that they were supposed to do when she was a baby.
That's exactly my point. Since these are fictional characters defined as heroes, we're willing to suspend disbelief/moral outrage about the things they do that would be deeply unethical or illegal in real life, like identity fraud, breaking and entering, assault, illegally imprisoning people in a particle accelerator, the nightmarish invasions of privacy Felicity Smoak commits every week, etc. In the real world, a lot of what they do would be criminal, but we choose to suspend those realistic standards for the sake of the story. So why can't we cut the fictional President Marsdin the same slack? She's done plenty of good herself, alien amnesty most of all.
Yes, if they're pretending to be objective and unbiased reporters when talking about their own crimefighting. There's a clear conflict of interest there. They can't report both sides fairly when writing about a fight in which they personally took a side. Of course, everyone has some personal bias, but that's why it's essential to be honest about one's own stake in a story so that the public can be aware of one's potential bias. That's why news stories often contain disclaimers like "Full disclosure: The billionaire we're reporting on is a majority shareholder in the conglomerate that owns our newspaper/website." Part of honest journalism, part of earning the public's trust, is being scrupulously forthright about any direct or even indirect stake you have in the story, so that there's no appearance of impropriety or deception.
National City is essentially Los Angeles (where season 1 was filmed). What they showed was a montage of United States locations from roughly East to West: first New York City, then the Grand Canyon, then the Golden Gate Bridge, and finally National City (i.e. the LA skyline with "CatCo" digitally added to one of the buildings).
Yes, that's it exactly. They're both bad in their own way, yet we're willing to let Clark's actions slide for the sake of the story. It's not even really about the relative immorality of the actions in the real world, because in fiction we forgive characters for all sorts of actions that would be criminal or morally reprehensible in real life. While it was right in-story for Marsdin to step down upon being exposed, that doesn't mean we, as viewers, have to damn her as a person. She's not our president, so we have no personal stake in the matter beyond our feelings toward her as a fictional character and our investment in Supergirl's relationship with her. We can understand and forgive her actions, because we recognize that she's intrinsically a good person who made one big mistake.
Is there a Daily Planet in National City or is Lex's secret mansion with a cloaking system near Metropolis?
I presume the latter. The whole reason Lena came to NC in season 2 was to distance herself professionally and emotionally from everything connected with Lex's crimes in Metropolis. That wouldn't make sense if Lex's evil lair had just happened to be outside of NC.
In the 70s DC in-house magazine The Amazing World of DC Comics & the monthly titles, Gotham was established as being New Jersey (after over 30 years of blurring with New York identity and using its nickname).
And someone posted a scan of a comic page from the 70s or 80s in a thread around here showing Metropolis and Gotham as across a river or bay from each other (I believe Delaware and New Jersey were the states).
Perry White pointed to New York in the Superman movie at one point when referring to Metropolis.
At the end, I just think Metropolis is in a state, a "state of mind."
Plus, of course, Superman: The Movie did a lot of location shooting and background plates in New York City to represent Metropolis, even openly showcasing the Statue of Liberty. In that continuity, Metropolis is just NYC by another name, much as Supergirl's National City is LA by another name (at least until it started taking on aspects of Vancouver in season 2).
But of course it's been different places in different continuities. Siegel & Shuster based it on Cleveland at first. The George Reeves series depicted it as Los Angeles because that's where it was filmed. The comics put it in Delaware because there was already a New York City in the DC Universe (it's where the Teen Titans were based). Smallville put it in Kansas so that it would be adjacent to the title location. And now Supergirl is making me wonder if Metropolis is supposed to be close to National City (but then, the geography of Star(ling) City and Central City has been semi-literally all over the map).
Smallville has moved around too. The '40s radio series put Clark's unnamed hometown in Iowa. The '70s comics put Smallville in Maryland or Pennsylvania so it would be close to Metropolis. It was the Donner movie that first put it in Kansas, where it's been presumed to be ever since.
it's also worth noting that city names are not unique. For example, there are 88 Washington's and 41 Springfield's in the US. So maybe there are multiple Smallville's or multiple Metropolis's?
In the Arrowverse, Metropolis is halfway across the country from National City.
We're talking about different continuities' versions of the place where Clark Kent was raised and the place where he works at the Daily Planet. Of course there's only one each of those places in any single continuity.
Despite having two Kent Farms multiuniversally that seem all but identical.
Avengers vs. Justice League revealed that Metropolis doesn't exist on Earth-616 (surprise, surprise) so that it's mostly just empty field. Also, that Earth-1 is actually a quarter larger in land mass than "our" Earth with more countries.
But speaking as an author, I think we may be overthinking this.
But speaking as an author, I think we may be overthinking this.
Which means the JLA satellite in the 70's and 80's (and later?) was orbiting at the wrong altitude for geosynchronous orbit.
