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News FOX selling out to Disney?

Is that at all confirmed?

Vanity Fair did a recent profile about the (then) happening any day now Disney/Fox merger that anonymously interviewed Fox execs and marketing people who indicated that it was most likely headed to streaming. Fox execs and test audiences were reportedly extremely happy with New Mutants, so Fox decided to let Josh Boone do reshoots to make the movie match his original (before nervous Fox execs watered it down) hard PG-13-to-R-rated horror movie vision.

Given that Disney is making Disney+ their family friendly service (Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, most of Fox's X-Men) and Hulu is where they're basing all of their older-skewing IPs (Deadpool, Logan, Legion, Alien, Buffy, The X-Files), it's most likely headed to Hulu.
 
Dark Phoenix is a remake of The Last Stand.

Rather, it's a new adaptation of the comics storyline that The Last Stand was supposed to be based on but that got shoved to the side in that movie in favor of the mutant cure storyline. This is pure Phoenix Saga, no mutant cure.


Was Mystique always Xavier’s adopted sister?

No, never. She was Rogue's adoptive mother, and Nightcrawler's biological mother.
 
Rather, it's a new adaptation of the comics storyline that The Last Stand was supposed to be based on but that got shoved to the side in that movie in favor of the mutant cure storyline. This is pure Phoenix Saga, no mutant cure.
It seems to be missing the entire Hellfire Club subplot and just jumping to Jean being evil and crazy.

No, never. She was Rogue's adoptive mother, and Nightcrawler's biological mother.
Not in the movies in any of the various timelines.
 
Dark Phoenix might break new ground by being worse than Last Stand. The early buzz is awful, they had to push it back a year for reshoots to fix it and that doesn't seem to have helped. I've seen reviews that call it laughably bad.
So I guess this means Simon Kinberg may end having a very short directorial career.
 
The Nightcrawler connection was hinted at in X2.
And I wondered why Raven took such a special interest in Kurt in Apocalypse that she would personally escort him to Xavier's. The timeline adds up-- She leaves with Azazel (Kurt's father in the comics) in 1962, and she shows unusual interest in a teenaged mutant that resembles both of them in Apocalypse 21 years later.
 
So I guess this means Simon Kinberg may end having a very short directorial career.

He's a straight white dude. He'll probably just end up becoming the next David S. Goyer (not counting his legit great comics work like his JSA run)/Zak Penn/Akiva Goldsman/Scott Buck/Uwe Boll/Paul W. S. Anderson and constantly fail upwards with a key assist from the international box office.
 
He's a straight white dude. He'll probably just end up becoming the next David S. Goyer (not counting his legit great comics work like his JSA run)/Zak Penn/Akiva Goldsman/Scott Buck/Uwe Boll/Paul W. S. Anderson and constantly fail upwards with a key assist from the international box office.
I hate that you're right about this. :(
 
Yes. We just weren't aware of it prior to First Class; that's how an evolving shared universe works.
It’s really not. It’s a huge retcon.

Logan takes place one year after the good future of Days of Future Past. Must have been a rough year, despite the status quo at the beginning being implied to have been a few years.

The continuity is a bigger mess than the comics. None of it fits together and there are multiple versions of some characters in different time periods. Deadpool mocked it multiple times, even killing another version of himself.

You can have whatever headcanon you want. I’m just not going to waste my time doing mental gymnastics to make four different puzzles fit together.
 
Deadpool can mock whatever he wants; it does not take a "Herculean effort" to accept the reality of the XMCU being a nineteen-year franchise comprising two timelines within a single overarching continuity.

The only reason people get their noses bent out of joint over and exaggerate the extent to which the series' in-universe narrative symmetry holds together is because they dislike the franchise.
 
Deadpool can mock whatever he wants; it does not take a "Herculean effort" to accept the reality of the XMCU being a nineteen-year franchise comprising two timelines within a single overarching continuity.

The only reason people get their noses bent out of joint over and exaggerate the extent to which the series' in-universe narrative symmetry holds together is because they dislike the franchise.
Please, I saw every movie in theaters. I wanted them to be good and make sense, but for the most part they didn't. Don't insult me by claiming I hate them because I find them to be an absolute mess. I've loved these characters since I was 8 and that's why I still want to see a faithful version of them on screen.
 
^ If you don't think that the majority of the franchise has been good, you, by definition, dislike it, and I have only ever seen those who don't like certain aspects or elements of the films complain about how the franchise's internal in-universe narrative is full of errors, holes, or flaws.
 
It seems to be missing the entire Hellfire Club subplot and just jumping to Jean being evil and crazy.

We don't know what it does or doesn't contain, because a trailer is a tiny fraction of an entire movie. The point is that it isn't a "remake" of The Last Stand, it's an attempt to make the movie that Bryan Singer intended to make in the first place and that got supplanted by The Last Stand.


Not in the movies in any of the various timelines.

You asked if Mystique was "always" Charles's adopted sister, so I thought you were referring to her comics history.
 
^ If you don't think that the majority of the franchise has been good, you, by definition, dislike it, and I have only ever seen those who don't like certain aspects or elements of the films complain about how the franchise's internal in-universe narrative is full of errors, holes, or flaws.
I'd prefer quality to quantity, but to each their own. I no longer wish to be told I hate a franchise because I'm not willing to accept shit and call it brilliant. I'm willingness to waste my time with you has come to an end.

Hopefully we'll be getting decent movies soon.
 
Deadpool can mock whatever he wants; it does not take a "Herculean effort" to accept the reality of the XMCU being a nineteen-year franchise comprising two timelines within a single overarching continuity.

The only reason people get their noses bent out of joint over and exaggerate the extent to which the series' in-universe narrative symmetry holds together is because they dislike the franchise.

I like-to-love X-Men, X2, First Class, Days of Future Past, Logan, Deadpools I & II and Legion (which contains some nods to the movies and showrunner Noah Hawley has been open about the fact that it does indeed take place in the same universe as the movies; see below) and even I have to admit that the continuity doesn't make a lick of sense. Then again, the X-Men comics continuity very frequently doesn't make a lick of sense either and also contains its fair share of nonsensical retcons. That might actually make Fox's X-Men films the most comics-accurate superhero franchise out there.

Asked if there were any corporate issues preventing Logan star Patrick Stewart from appearing as Xavier on the show, Hawley said he was hopeful such an appearance would work out so that David could meet his father.

“It’s not a rights issue or a legal issue, it’s more about corporate synergy," said Hawley. "There are a lot of people with opinions and strategies for franchise development. But I think we’ll be victorious in the end because our hearts are pure.”

Hawley was also open to other versions of Xavier besides Stewart’s. “We move around a lot in time with the show. I haven’t really settled on which version we’ll see,” he said.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/legion-season-2-preview-1099278
 
^ In the time since that interview, Legion's version of Xavier has been cast and I believe that the show has been confirmed to be an alternate timeline to the two presented by the XMCU films.

I also believe that The Gifted has likewise been confirmed to take place in an alternate timeline to the two XMCU filmic timelines.
 
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