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News FOX selling out to Disney?

Awesome Possum said:
I imagine that Deadpool is going to be the only current property to survive the buyout without change based on Iger saying they keep his movies rated R. Plus Ryan Reynolds doesn’t seem worried at all. I’d be curious if he had already had some discussions with Disney and Marvel.
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Deadpool is the only Fox X-film franchise that has a chance of surviving (leaving aside things already filmed), assuming X-Force counts as a Deadpool property because that still has a chance.

Legion is supposedly ending naturally. The question I have is whether The Gifted would continue. It was already co-produced by Marvel so I wouldn't say it's impossible that it'll continue at least until the first X-Men film comes out.
 
OCD Geek said:
Murdoch is only keeping the FOX broadcast network, along with Fox News and Fox Sports. Murdoch originally wanted to get completely out of the film and scripted TV business and focus 100% on news and sports, but it looks like somewhere during the deal-making process he gave up on his "the FOX broadcast network will only air local and national news and sports now" thing. Someone probably made him realize that Disney was primarily buying him out for his moneymaking IPs (and complete creative control of Hulu) and that Disney's own networks didn't have room for their shows and FOX's shows.
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It's more that the government objected on antitrust grounds to Disney owning Fox's TV networks when they already have ABC, Freeform, several Disney Channels, etc. The FCC has a rule banning competing networks from merging, because that would be monopolistic and give their owner an unfair advantage in the market. So the only way the government and the courts would approve the merger as legal was if Fox's TV networks were not part of the deal, and thus they were required to split those off into a separate company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Corporation#Formation


Alidar Jarok said:
The question I have is whether The Gifted would continue. It was already co-produced by Marvel so I wouldn't say it's impossible that it'll continue at least until the first X-Men film comes out.
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All the shows and films based on Marvel properties are co-produced by Marvel in the ownership/financial sense. That doesn't mean it's directly involved in their day-to-day production, or that they won't be shut down due to a studio reorganization.

Besides, The Gifted did pretty poorly in the ratings in season 2. I'd be surprised if it were renewed in any case.
 
The Gifted wasn't co-produced in an ownership financial sense, it was in the sense that Jeph Loeb was creatively involved, it was on the Marvel panels at conventions, etc. It wasn't like the films where it was leased and they might get a producer credit but that's it.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
The Gifted wasn't co-produced in an ownership financial sense, it was in the sense that Jeph Loeb was creatively involved, it was on the Marvel panels at conventions, etc.
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Okay, that's different, then. Still, that won't save it if the ratings are bad, and they sure look bad.


JD said:
4,000 and according to one person maybe even 5,000 to 10,000 thousand people will be laid off due to the deal.
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Damn. It's too bad we're all so fixated on the Marvel consolidation -- it's the one good side effect of the merger that's distracting us from all its negative consequences.

For that matter, I'm not even sure it is a good thing. I liked having multiple studios doing Marvel movies, since it allowed for more movies to be made per year. Now that there's basically nobody left in the game except Marvel and Sony, that benefit is almost gone.
 
Christopher said:
Okay, that's different, then. Still, that won't save it if the ratings are bad, and they sure look bad.
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Yeah, as with all TV shows, if the network doesn't want to carry it, it's not going to happen unless they find a new buyer.
 
Christopher said:
Damn. It's too bad we're all so fixated on the Marvel consolidation -- it's the one good side effect of the merger that's distracting us from all its negative consequences.

For that matter, I'm not even sure it is a good thing. I liked having multiple studios doing Marvel movies, since it allowed for more movies to be made per year. Now that there's basically nobody left in the game except Marvel and Sony, that benefit is almost gone.
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Eh, Fox was being sold regardless of Disney. No matter what, those people were going to lose their jobs.
 
I don't like the deal and maybe after people start doing some serious work of breaking up things like Facebook and Youtube they will focus on Disney. You would hope someone,someday will start giving a dam about the anti-trust laws.

Jason
 
Christopher said:
For that matter, I'm not even sure it is a good thing. I liked having multiple studios doing Marvel movies, since it allowed for more movies to be made per year. Now that there's basically nobody left in the game except Marvel and Sony, that benefit is almost gone.
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Marvel releases on the average three a year, and Sony's probably going to kick in at least one a year. So, four Marvel movies a year, or more if the Sony machine kicks into higher gear. That's good enough for me.

And when Marvel Studios first began, I was grateful that the properties were spread out, because if Marvel owned everything, we probably never would have gotten The Avengers movies based on the characters that we have. But now that we actually have gotten those movies, I'm interested in seeing what Marvel will do differently with the X-Men the Fantastic Four than what Fox did.
 
Oh I wouldn't go that far. The first 2 older X-Men movies, A couple of the newer X-Men movies were okay. Don't forget about Logan which was the best movie they ever made. I don't even hate the first 2 Fantastic 4 movies as much as many do.

Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
Oh I wouldn't go that far. The first 2 older X-Men movies, A couple of the newer X-Men movies were okay. Don't forget about Logan which was the best movie they ever made. I don't even hate the first 2 Fantastic 4 movies as much as many do.

Jason
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Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

And oh yeah, Logan is loosely tied to X-Men. It's so good I forgot. It's more like a character drama with some scifi elements like Children of Men.
 
I remember a time when X-Men 2 was seen as the best comic book around. Which was strange because I always liked the first one better. As much as I hate the Fox/Disney merger part of kind of also wishes that if it were going to happen it would have happened years ago when we could have added Jackman's Wolverine into the MCU. Imagine Infinity Wars with both him and Deadpool both in it. Plus Patrick Stewart in it as well. I hate to think the MCU is getting something in the X-Men that people don't respond to because they still haven't gotten over those characters not being part of the merger.

Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
I remember a time when X-Men 2 was seen as the best comic book around. Which was strange because I always liked the first one better. As much as I hate the Fox/Disney merger part of kind of also wishes that if it were going to happen it would have happened years ago when we could have added Jackman's Wolverine into the MCU. Imagine Infinity Wars with both him and Deadpool both in it. Plus Patrick Stewart in it as well. I hate to think the MCU is getting something in the X-Men that people don't respond to because they still haven't gotten over those characters not being part of the merger.

Jason
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Just folding them into the mcu was never really an option. The x-men film history was fundamentally incompatible with the MCU film history. Theoretically they might have kept some of the actors while rebooting the characters, but they also might very well not have. It was always going to be in their best interests to clearly separate their new x-men franchise from what came before it.

And people will respond to the new x-men just fine. The diminishing returns on the old series have nothing to do with who owns it and everything to do with actual diminishing returns in the quality of the films being made.
 
grendelsbayne said:
Just folding them into the mcu was never really an option. The x-men film history was fundamentally incompatible with the MCU film history. Theoretically they might have kept some of the actors while rebooting the characters, but they also might very well not have. It was always going to be in their best interests to clearly separate their new x-men franchise from what came before it.

And people will respond to the new x-men just fine. The diminishing returns on the old series have nothing to do with who owns it and everything to do with actual diminishing returns in the quality of the films being made.
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Couldn't they have just did a altered timeline or alternate universe and then characters crossover much like we see on the Arrowverse on tv?

Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
Couldn't they have just did a altered timeline or alternate universe and then characters crossover much like we see on the Arrowverse on tv?

Jason
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That would undermine the whole point of the MCU. Not to mention forcing them into a technobabble movie explaining how different universes relate to each other, which they probably wouldn't want to do as it's unlikely to be super well received.
 
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