The MCU is released under the Marvel banner, so releasing an R rated Marvel movie wouldn't be any stranger for Disney than an R-Rated Mirimax movie.
The X-Men Cinematic Universe (General Discussion)
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The MCU is released under the Marvel banner, so releasing an R rated Marvel movie wouldn't be any stranger for Disney than an R-Rated Mirimax movie.
Ok with making them (which I never doubted) or ok with making them in the MCU specifically?
Does it really matter?
Deadpool doesn't need to interact with Dr. Srange and Iron Man to work. It can be its own thing and still be entertaining. Might even work better, honestly. Or they can have him interact with whoever helps with whatever joke they're going for, there really doesn't have to be any baggage that people are bringing with it. Continuity doesn't matter a lick for this franchise.
In case everyone has forgotten, the Deadpool movies and Logan already start with the Marvel logo, so this is not a branding problem in the slightest.
It's probably ultimately up the Kevin Feige as to whether or not he wants to include Deadpool in the established MCU and/or retain Reynolds in the role. Honestly, it would be insane to recast at this point and Ragnarok has already proven they're willing to really push the comedy aspect on certain projects.
It's probably ultimately up the Kevin Feige as to whether or not he wants to include Deadpool in the established MCU and/or retain Reynolds in the role. Honestly, it would be insane to recast at this point and Ragnarok has already proven they're willing to really push the comedy aspect on certain projects.
Disney is still going forward with R-rated movies via Fox.
Iger Says Disney Will ‘Continue’ in the Business of R-Rated Deadpool Movies
Iger Says Disney Will ‘Continue’ in the Business of R-Rated Deadpool Movies
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I'd love it if Thor somehow cuts Deadpool in half with his axe and Deadpool goes back together. All a misunderstanding, of course.
Probably just a casual error because the Phoenix has been portrayed as a cosmic force in the comics. Kinda like how everyone still reflexively refers to Peter Parker being bitten by a "radioactive" spider when the spiders he was bitten by in the 2002 & 2012 movies were both genetically engineered, not radioactive.
While I expect Godzilla to do well overseas, I don't know that it will fare so well in the U.S. And I think live action superhero movies fall into a different category from animated kids movies. Toy Story 4 will still do the best out of all of these but I don't think that it will siphon away too many viewers from Dark Phoenix.
I don't know how necessary that is. We only got a 2 year gap between Andrew Garfield's Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Tom Holland's debut in the role in Captain America: Civil War.
It still doesn't stop me from cringing every time I think of cramming mutants into the MCU. I don't think the X-Men make sense within the regular Marvel comics continuity. I certainly don't see them adding anything to the MCU except for confusion.
Agreed. Although, I've known families like that where there's a huge age gap between siblings. My grandfather is 18 years older than his youngest brother.
Sometimes it is. Hugh Jackman seems pretty committed to going out on a high note with Logan. I often wonder if Jackman would have even bothered doing any more Wolverine spin-off movies had either of the earlier ones turned out as well as Logan did. (I'm not particularly fond of that movie but I acknowledge that I'm in a minority on that point.)
I don't know that you can even really count the gap between X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine as a pause given that 3 years was the standard back then. That was already how they released the first 3 movies in 2000, 2003, & 2006.
While it's confusing to have 2 different, unrelated characters named Trask in your fictional universe, I don't think we're supposed to assume that they're anywhere near the same person. Similarly, my headcanon only makes sense if I assume that Victor Creed in X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Sabretooth in X-Men are different people. (Note that neither one is ever referred to by the other name, even in the credits.)
I think it's pretty clear that it's all supposed to be a single movie continuity, even if it's one of the most recklessly assembled ones that I've ever seen. If X-Men: First Class was supposed to be a reboot rather than a prequel, I suspect that it (A) wouldn't have been a period piece and (B) they would have included more iconic characters on the team like Cyclops, Jean Grey, & Iceman. As is, while there are some definite continuity flubs that show up when you do a close reading of the films, I think that there's a definite casual linkage between all of the films where they try to avoid any really glaring contradictions.
IIRC, the Origins series was cut off when most of their material for X-Men Origins: Magneto ended up getting folded into X-Men: First Class.
I don't know what their status is now but Disney also had imprint labels for Touchstone Pictures (in-house productions that were deemed too edgy to bear the Disney name like Ed Wood & Who Framed Roger Rabbit?) and Dimension Films (their genre label for sci-fi, fantasy, & horror films like The Crow, From Dusk 'Till Dawn, Highlander: Endgame, & Scream). Miramax seemed to be more of their prestige label for Oscar bait like Good Will Hunting & Shakespeare in Love.
Personally, I hope that Disney keeps 20th Century Fox running as one of their imprints. I'm also hoping that we can put the 20th Century Fox fanfare back onto the Star Wars movies. They just feel naked without it!
I mean it matters for this conversation. I think I already said that Deadpool could go on entirely by himself. And I would be totally fine with that, although my ideal scenario would be an r rated DP franchise which is allowed to do pg crossovers with the MCU. But this conversation is about whether it's at all likely that Deadpool will be allowed to exist in the MCU or not.
And come to think of it, now that you mention continuity - it may not matter a lick for Deadpool, but it kind of does to the MCU. Which could be an extra problem there, since bringing Deadpool in could mean Feige would have to taylor the new MCU X-men to fit what Deadpool has already shown. And that may not even be possible, or may be completely at odds with what he wants to do with the X-Men.
This isn't a question of whether it would be revolutionary for Disney studios or the Marvel comics brand. It would be revolutionary for the MCU brand, and we have seen signs before that the mcu movies are being deliberately kept away from non-family friendly content.
Hearing it confirmed the Deadpool will continue in its own style no matter what is great, but unless anyone has any clarifying quotes to the contrary I still highly doubt the idea that Deadpool will become part of the MCU.
As somebody who loves the way that the XMCU has dealt with the concept of time travel thus far, I'm extremely happy that this new trailer confirms beyond any doubt that the movie is essentially reworking the "Dark Phoenix" elements of The Last Stand just as Logan showed us a different version of the dystopian future that we saw in Days of Future Past.
Raven dying instead of Charles and Scott is an interesting way to change up the story and presents some great opportunities for internal conflict and strife, as does Erik wanting to kill Jean this time around instead of wanting to try and control her as he did in the original timeline.
Wow, how do you come up with this shit...
Not a bit of it.
As previously mentioned 'Oh Man, I survived the Fox acquisition', along with 'What the...have I been rebooted ?' and 'Hey Man, didn't you used to have a different head ?' at the relevant points is all the explanation required.
So you're suggesting they'll just reboot Deadpool in line with the new style X-Men? That could work, maybe. It would definitely be a good source of humor, as long as the audience is willing to go along and not put off by dumping (some of) the story/characters of the first two films.
Still leaves the issue of whether they're willing to connect an r rated franchise to the mcu in the first place, of course.
I would've expected them to try to distance this from The Last Stand, but when Jean's voiceover said "When I lose control, people I love die," they made a point of showing Xavier and Cyclops.
Still, it looks like a very different movie, one where Jean is more front-and-center, as she should've been the first time.
Still, it looks like a very different movie, one where Jean is more front-and-center, as she should've been the first time.
As a rare poster here, I'm just chiming in to say that I have enjoyed pretty much all the X-Men movies, both casts, and am greatly looking forward to this supposed final installment. In terms of continuity and chronology, all that seems sure is that "Logan" is chronologically the end of this cinematic universe, regardless of pre- or post-DOFP timelines.
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