THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"
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Yeah I caught that as well..........lolDamn, this episode took a turn! No wonder it's a two-parter! Next, I bet Isaac will realize that because he's spent more time with humans while the rest of the Kaylons have stayed on their home planet, that he isn't like them at all. But anyway, this is why I watch The Orville. Awesome stuff
Btw, at the party, I don't know if anyone caught this, but Isaac's speech was Sally Field's Oscar acceptance speech from 1984. Interesting detail seeing as Mercer told Isaac to scan his databanks for speeches.And nice for the episode to air just before the Oscars air! Coincidence?
After the failed Thanagarian Invasion in Justice League (Animated) Hawkgirl stopped wearing her Thanagarian military uniform.
Issac could build himself a new body, even an organic body.
Issac could build himself a new body, even an organic body.
I hope that the outcome of this story isn't that Isaac henceforward will look like the actor who plays him. He's a nice-looking guy and everything, but I love the Isaac design and that would just make him another Data.
Or his...program is in the Kaylon mainframe or whatever it is....
Well, that escalated quickly, caught me right off guard did this episode, cracking stuff.
So that you know he's Tron and everyone else is Sark.
Or perhaps Kaylon Primary is CLU (2), and Isaac is Rinzler.
^Speaking of origins, I was struck by a thought yesterday.
Anybody ever read "Life, The Universe and Everything" by Douglas Adams? In it is a passage about the people of Krikkit, who launched a rocket through the clouds that isolated them and discovered that the universe was much larger than they ever realized...and upon that realization, their inherent isolationism drove them to decide to eliminate everything else, creating a race of robots to do the killing. (Adams put it thusly: they set about destroying everything in the universe that wasn't Krikkit.)
I got to thinking that the original organic Kaylons pierced the clouds covering their own planet and had a similar epiphany, so they made the first batch of androids, and in the ultimate example of not thinking things through, the organic Kaylon leaders ordered the androids to go forth and destroy all life in the universe...and the androids said "Very Well" and started with them.
Yeah, I know, but t's just the way my mind works.
Anybody ever read "Life, The Universe and Everything" by Douglas Adams? In it is a passage about the people of Krikkit, who launched a rocket through the clouds that isolated them and discovered that the universe was much larger than they ever realized...and upon that realization, their inherent isolationism drove them to decide to eliminate everything else, creating a race of robots to do the killing. (Adams put it thusly: they set about destroying everything in the universe that wasn't Krikkit.
)I got to thinking that the original organic Kaylons pierced the clouds covering their own planet and had a similar epiphany, so they made the first batch of androids, and in the ultimate example of not thinking things through, the organic Kaylon leaders ordered the androids to go forth and destroy all life in the universe...and the androids said "Very Well" and started with them.
Yeah, I know, but t's just the way my mind works.
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That would be ST:TMP. The score also had some T2-esque themes too.
This episode was not what I was expecting. I figured it would be the old story where the only way to save Isaac would be to do a complete re-boot of his systems, resulting in a total memory loss and the crew (esp. Cassidy Yates) reacting to this "new" Isaac. Basically, it would be the show's way of safely getting Isaac out of his relationship status.
Obviously, I was wrong, and I'm happy about that. I don't like new television that is too predictable.
Obviously, I was wrong, and I'm happy about that. I don't like new television that is too predictable.
I agree with NoName Given, totally TMP with a dash of James Horner (RIP)
When the Orville was flying into the city, I was also reminded of James Horner's score as the dropship circled the colony on LV-426 in Aliens. Ominous sounding with a periodic soft trumpet(?) blaring sound.
Hmmm, interesting point, maybe it will be his connection with the kids that turn Isaac against the rest of the Kaylon. They could end up getting caught and are about to be killed when Isaac shows up, saves them, then takes them to Claire, and helps the Orville crew defeat the rest of the Kaylons. That would be a good way for him to quickly earn back their trust.
I wouldn't totally rule that out yet, I could see that ending up being how Isaac sticks around.
Here's what happens...
Isaac commits genocide and permanently de-activates his entire race. It could go a couple of ways after that:
* He "de-activates" with them after a sad goodbye
* He is the sole survivor (by design) and future episodes deal with the crew's mixed feelings of appreciation for saving Earth while contemplating just what type of monster would wipe out its entire civilization.
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