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Dune 2018 (19,20,21...)

Slight tangent but wondering if last nights episode of The Simpsons was referencing the Lynch version of Dune. The plot revolved the filming of a high concept SciFi film in the 1980s that came from a book that was considered unfilmable and production took place in Mexico.

I haven't seen the episode, but it sounds like it. They've referenced Dune a bunch of times before, including the famous "I can see the future" line when Lisa is asked if the Indian food is too spicy for her.
 
That's some good casting. Nice to see the film is working in some character actors. Of course, it helps that Villeneuve worked with him in Blade Runner 2049.
 
For those keeping track at home, that leaves the Emperor, Princess Irulan, Sting - er, Feyd, Liet Kynes, Thufir Hawat, Shadout Mapes and Duke Leto's dog yet to be cast for Part 1. Alia, the Fenrings (maybe), Reverend Mother Ramallo, Jamis, Harah, and the dude who screams "BREAK!!" at a rock, all wait for whether Part 2 gets made or not.
 
I'd combine Dune Messiah, Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune into a single movie, with God Emperor just being the last five to ten minutes, when Leto II becomes emperor he starts giving a speech about his plans, we see Arrakis transition into a lush green world, get a scene with Leto II, Duncan and Siona, then the assassination, Leto II finishes his speech about the golden path and we're done. It will be kinda exposition heavy but I think it would be the best way to do it.
Wow, is there really that little story in God Emperor?
So if theoretically this movie is a huge hit and they continue on to to the rest of the books where should they stop? Chapterhouse? Or should they go ahead and do Hunters and Sandworms even though they are by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson?
Slight tangent but wondering if last nights episode of The Simpsons was referencing the Lynch version of Dune. The plot revolved the filming of a high concept SciFi film in the 1980s that came from a book that was considered unfilmable and production took place in Mexico.
It definitely felt that way to me.
 
If they are going to be faithful (ish) to the book - Feyd is going to be an interesting one - I doubt they go as young as 18 but hopefully they do not go too old...
 
Wow, is there really that little story in God Emperor?
There's a bit more but honestly not much that can't be skipped, I like the novel a lot but it's mostly people talking about why they did what they did and why they have to do what they do, how some things are inevitable etc., it's an interesting read but as a movie it could easily drive away the audience in my opinion.

So if theoretically this movie is a huge hit and they continue on to to the rest of the books where should they stop? Chapterhouse? Or should they go ahead and do Hunters and Sandworms even though they are by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson?
I wouldn't mind them either stopping after Chapterhouse or coming up with their own final movie. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should they ever adapt the Brian Herbert/Anderson stuff. It's so bad, it reads like bad fan fiction, it's like a Star Trek film with the following plot:
Kirk in the 35th century teams up with every major character from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and DIS and they fight the superborg and the superchangelings and the superchangelings think they win but then the others are like "psych, we knew about your plans" and press the superchangeling kill button and every superchangeling in the universe drops dead. And then Kirk kisses the superborg queen and because he's Kirk she gets an orgasm and makes him the superborg king and dies. Superborg King Kirk then tells all the superborg that the war is over and they're all friends now. The End!
 
There's a bit more but honestly not much that can't be skipped, I like the novel a lot but it's mostly people talking about why they did what they did and why they have to do what they do, how some things are inevitable etc., it's an interesting read but as a movie it could easily drive away the audience in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind them either stopping after Chapterhouse or coming up with their own final movie. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should they ever adapt the Brian Herbert/Anderson stuff. It's so bad, it reads like bad fan fiction, it's like a Star Trek film with the following plot:
Kirk in the 35th century teams up with every major character from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and DIS and they fight the superborg and the superchangelings and the superchangelings think they win but then the others are like "psych, we knew about your plans" and press the superchangeling kill button and every superchangeling in the universe drops dead. And then Kirk kisses the superborg queen and because he's Kirk she gets an orgasm and makes him the superborg king and dies. Superborg King Kirk then tells all the superborg that the war is over and they're all friends now. The End!

Also, they learned their super powers from their teenage years in the space circus.
 
I wouldn't mind them either stopping after Chapterhouse or coming up with their own final movie. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should they ever adapt the Brian Herbert/Anderson stuff. It's so bad, it reads like bad fan fiction, it's like a Star Trek film with the following plot:
Kirk in the 35th century teams up with every major character from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and DIS and they fight the superborg and the superchangelings and the superchangelings think they win but then the others are like "psych, we knew about your plans" and press the superchangeling kill button and every superchangeling in the universe drops dead. And then Kirk kisses the superborg queen and because he's Kirk she gets an orgasm and makes him the superborg king and dies. Superborg King Kirk then tells all the superborg that the war is over and they're all friends now. The End!
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Yup. And I'm not even joking, that's the trekkified version of what Brian Herbert thought would be a good finale to his father's work.

I've got to be honest here, the first prequel trilogy by B. Herbert/Anderson (the House books) isn't awful. It's not good but at least it's readable with some ok ideas and it could be turned into a perfectly fine movie trilogy with some changes to bring it im line with the actual Dune series.
There's one particular scene I really enjoyed, it's when a certain character thinks he's the greatest and has it all figured out and wants to show everyone who's boss and the spacing guild is having none of it and just leaves that person stranded.
 
Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should they ever adapt the Brian Herbert/Anderson stuff.
Don't hold your breath. Word is this movie got started by Brian Herbert trying to shop around movie rights to the Dune novels he and Kevin J Anderson wrote. But everyone he talked to said they were only interested in Dune if they could adapt the original novel. Eventually a deal was reached with Villeneuve in that he could adapt the original if he agreed to adapt a Brian Herbert/Kevin J Anderson novel next.
Kirk in the 35th century teams up with every major character from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and DIS and they fight the superborg and the superchangelings and the superchangelings think they win but then the others are like "psych, we knew about your plans" and press the superchangeling kill button and every superchangeling in the universe drops dead. And then Kirk kisses the superborg queen and because he's Kirk she gets an orgasm and makes him the superborg king and dies. Superborg King Kirk then tells all the superborg that the war is over and they're all friends now. The End!
Well that's basically Shatner's novel The Return.

I exaggerate, but not by much.
 
Don't hold your breath. Word is this movie got started by Brian Herbert trying to shop around movie rights to the Dune novels he and Kevin J Anderson wrote. But everyone he talked to said they were only interested in Dune if they could adapt the original novel. Eventually a deal was reached with Villeneuve in that he could adapt the original if he agreed to adapt a Brian Herbert/Kevin J Anderson novel next.
That's the first time I've read about such a deal. What's your source on that?
 
Can't find it now. I think I read it online sometime last year.
EDIT: Here we are, Page 12 of this very thread. Apparently, a script of a House Atreides adaptation is already done.
 
Unless I'm missing something, that Newsrama article is talking about adapting it as a comic mini-series, not as a film.
 
Would someone please define "a work of high literature" objectively, together with suitable metrics for measuring this, rather than trotting out the collective perceived wisdom of a bunch of snooty academics or critics.

I read novels for entertainment and to gain insight into what might motivate other people from different backgrounds, not to pass Eng Lit exams. I trained as a scientist so I grant that my brain isn't attuned to extracting the fine nuances of the human condition from "high(brow) literature", just as the typical Eng Lit student isn't trained to understand advanced calculus.
Kind of sums up reading, actually. A work inspires or it doesn't, sometimes a particular work can inspire far more than another. Whether high lit, pop lit, or a simple webseries is irrelevant.

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