Vents vs Spheres.

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Thanos007, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. Redfern

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    Nothing can, ahem, "top" those last two posts! :D Might as well lock the thread. ;)
     
  2. drt

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    When i first got the technical manual back in the 1970s i assumed from those descriptions that the nacelles worked like jet engines, sucking in space-time and expelling it in order to move.
     
  3. johnnybear

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    And these spikes are only on the Mirror version? Can't say I've noticed them on the usual Enterprise!
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    With a jet, air gets combusted with fuel and exhaust also gets expelled out. I wonder what space-time gets combusted with and what combustion space-time by-products are expelled with the rest of normal space-time. This sounds like an space-time environmental catastrophe.
     
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    On the Cage Enterprise, the whole time:
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  6. Henoch

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    I think they broke them off for most of WNMHGB, I know one scene where they show up again (but I think they were trying to hide them with only far-away, out-of-focus shots with file footage from the Cage):
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  7. Marsden

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    Silly, those spikes are where the waitress puts the orders so the cook can make them.


    The bigger dish on the front that coresponds with the spikes being there makes me think (ouch!) that they are the transmitter to what the dish is catching back the reflection of, like a sonar but obviously not sound waves, because: space.
     
  8. drt

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    Maybe that's why there's a Warp 5 speed limit in TNG, lol
     
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    Considering that Matt Jeffries was an aviator, that may very well be.
     
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  11. Mres_was_framed!

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    As a kid watching the show for the first time, I assumed that the ships appearance could change based on the situation, and they just did not have the money to show the vents being exposed or the spikes being extended.

    That does not work for me because the pilot version is in the Main Titles for Seasons Two and Three, making it seem like this was how the ship could look, too.

    Because so many episodes end with the "series" version flying into the camera and the "pilot" version flying away from the camera, I assume that when at normal warp operation the deflector/bridge are compacted, and that the vents are exposed. Because so many episodes show the "series" version orbiting a planet, I assume normal operation is to cover the vents with the spheres while in orbit.

    Anyway, that's what I thought as a kid, and I don't think TOS-R had to go and change it. Would it not have been stellar to see the deflector change its orientation or size in the midst of an effects shot?

    Perhaps the spikes are communications antennas that are more useful at certain times?

    Has anyone catalogued each shot from each episode and noted warp/sublight, shields up/down, sensors at long/short range, communications open/closed, orbit or interplanetary flight?
     
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    Yep, let me find it...got it. Tallguy put an exhaustive level of research into each ship shot. But not like you list on your ship conditions.
    http://www.trekplace.com/tosfxcatalog.html
     
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  13. Maurice

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    That particular shot was filmed against black, not blue. It was done as a hi-contrast matte, which is why you see the "barrier" through chunks of the ship when it was composited onto the barrier element for "Beauty".
     
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    Now IIRC, the same pattern on the front domes f the nacelles was to have been replicated in the back spheres and the insides of the nacelles-so show a churing up and down the length of the nacelle. In my head canon--that's what the Enterprise looked like heading into spacedock for the refit--alrready having Achernar placement phaser banks all over.
     
  15. The Old Mixer

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    I don't think that the Enterprise switching places with its pilot version is to be taken literally in-universe any more than when Shatner and Nimoy switch places with their stunt doubles.

    To answer the question: Spheres, definitely!
     
  16. Henoch

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    Spheres - Yes! But what's their function? Ass-end warp field stabilization babble or simple antimatter fuel tanks? I like the fuel tank idea. KISS.
     
  17. Ssosmcin

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    Why do do they have to have a specific function? It's a transparent sphere to display the warp energy. Maybe the people designing it just wanted it to look badass. LIke the Flying Sub's reactor wall in Voyage tot he Bottom of the Sea. You can also tell upon approach if the power is out...
     
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    Microsingularity containers. The dome is a gravity focusing lens. The Bussards are the ridges behind the dome- stacked funnels.
     
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    “Micro singularity containers” is waaaay too technobabbly for the original series.
     
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