Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"

[Tuskin38]

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/d4-bonchune.jpg

I have always seen this ship from Enterprise called a D4. I know they used the model because they didn't have time or money to make a new one, but it still looks just like this new D7.

The D4 wasn’t in ENT, they used a K’t’inga model from DS9.

The D4 model was made and ready, but the producers didn’t want to use it. The artists even sent a render of the scene with it, but they turned it down. They were insistant on using the K’t’inga.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/D4_class_(concept)

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Vorok's_battle_cruiser

The D7 in DSC has a lot of differences from the D4.

 

[Phoenix219]

The D4 model was made and ready, but the producers didn’t want to use it. The artists even sent a render of the scene with it, but they turned it down.

They were insistant on using the K’t’inga.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/D4_class_(concept)

Even the concept CGI is based completely on a D7. This new episode marks the D7 as a brand new design. The D4/Battlecruiser/Enterprise usage of K'Tin'Ga are still the same, chasis, for lack of a better term.

 

[Tuskin38]

This new episode marks the D7 as a brand new design.

And they’re right. There are quite a few differences between the D4 and D7

 

[cooleddie74]

The D4 was a good-looking ship. It's a shame that the producers of ENT wouldn't use it in the series.

 

[Tuskin38]

TrekYards did an episode on it last week with ENT Senior CG Supervisor Rob Bonchune

And it was a good interview. They weren’t asking any silly technical questions.

 

[ScottJ85]

I like the design of the D4. The external bracing really sells the idea that it's supposed to be an early design.

 

[BillJ]

The ‘D7’ last year was never called that outside of the episode, every other official source called it the ‘Sech’ class. So I’m just going to ignore the computer. That’s the retcon.

What is onscreen is canon.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Not if it's a mistake, which this was.

 

[cultcross]

Still canon. Canon doesn't mean 'right' or 'in continuity'. Several canonical timeframes can be argued for TOS, for example.

 

[cooleddie74]

"The time barrier's been broken!" (2254)

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly that means now that we know for sure when warp drive was invented. But yeah, onscreen doesn't technically mean 100% accurate since that would also mean that the Enterprise-A had 78 decks.

 

[Gov Kodos]

"The time barrier's been broken!" (2254)

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly that means now that we know for sure when warp drive was invented.

How else would they make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs?

 

[Hythlodeus]

How else would they make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs?

By taking a short cut, it seems

 

[cooleddie74]

I don't know but we're gonna need a sassy droid who likes to have sex with humans.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

"The time barrier's been broken!" (2254)

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly that means now that we know for sure when warp drive was invented. But yeah, onscreen doesn't technically mean 100% accurate since that would also mean that the Enterprise-A had 78 decks.

With retrospect his declaration was a clumsy way of reporting that Earth ships could now exceed warp 5. Much faster than the Columbia's engines could muster.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Just because C-3PO was to shy to talk about it, it doesn't mean he had no urges

 

[cooleddie74]

With retrospect his declaration was a clumsy way of reporting that Earth ships could now exceed warp 5. Much faster than the Columbia's engines could muster.

Or Warp 7 or 8.

The Warp 7 breakthrough happened by sometime around 2161 based on the ENT finale so any significant improvement in warp drive after that would need to be a higher warp number or at the very least a recalibration of the warp scale where Warp 5 or 6 would be faster than Warp 7 or 8 on the old scale.

 

[Gov Kodos]

I don't know but we're gonna need a sassy droid who likes to have sex with humans.

I hear Norman coordinates.

 

[Campe]

I hear Norman coordinates.

I mean...

 

[oberth]

I don't know but we're gonna need a sassy droid who likes to have sex with humans.

data tasha

 

[Alan Roi]

How else would they make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs?

Rolled back the Falcons odometer after it was completed.