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New Series Idea: Borg Origins / Rise of the Queen

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Just an idea! Have a new series set in the Delta Quadrant, no Federation, no humans (unless you like the V'GER theory of the origin of the Borg). A race of typical humanoids struggles against a race of super-telepaths who are biologically connected in a hive mind. The typical humanoids create an artificial hive mind for themselves to be able to act as 1 against their telepath enemies. Eventually they overcome their enemies, but one of the telepath children is a prodigy equivalent to Jean Grey in the X-Men series. When they assimilate her, she is able to impose herself onto the hive mind, becoming who we come to know as the Borg Queen.

Perhaps she even has a counterpart, another prodigy named Locutus whom she reluctantly has to do away with at some point. She never really gets over him, but many many years later, Picard reminds her of Locutus, and she seizes on the opportunity to have a counterpart again (one whom she could control), even placing Locutus' name upon Picard the drone.

VOY explored some of the proto-Borg themes, but there's so much more that could be done. I admit I haven't read any ST books or literature that might tackle these plotlines already, but while Star Trek is making a comeback, I thought that might be a neat angle to explore at some point. :)
 
Star Trek Destiny is enough for me for their origins. I think they should ease back on the Borg. Like the Daleks in Doctor Who, if you use them too much, they don't feel threatening.
 
As to what the Litverse did with the Borg, David Mack's Destiny Trilogy is recommendable. It explores the origin of the Borg.
 
Star Trek Destiny is enough for me for their origins. I think they should ease back on the Borg. Like the Daleks in Doctor Who, if you use them too much, they don't feel threatening.

Well, VOY used them so much that they kind of already achieved that status. The Kazon overpowered Voyager, but somehow the Borg weren't able to. With all the revamping that's going on these days, maybe a revamp of that mortal foe of the Federation would be intriguing on the small scale of the Queen's story with the large scale rise of the collective.
 
My point is no one but the most die hard of fans is going to be interested in a Star Trek series that doesn't feature the Federation or humanity. It would be a tough sell, virtually impossible I should think.
 
My point is no one but the most die hard of fans is going to be interested in a Star Trek series that doesn't feature the Federation or humanity. It would be a tough sell, virtually impossible I should think.

It would be a tough sell, for sure, but I would loosely compare it to the Star Wars movies "Rogue One" and "Solo," which incorporate some familiar elements from their universe but leave out a bunch of the traditional elements/structures/characters. People still went for it, seeing the larger part they play in the SW narrative. I feel like it could be a powerful enough story that as a stand-alone, it could hold its own. If not, oh well.
 
Rogue One had many iconic Star Wars elements in it. Darth Vader, Death Star, X-Wings, Star Destroyers. Stormtroopers, and so on. Solo had Han Solo, Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon. Even then, Solo is the Star Wars franchise's one commercial failure.

You're talking about a Star Trek series without any of the iconic Star Trek elements. Like I said, a tough, virtually impossible sell.
 
Rogue One had many iconic Star Wars elements in it. Darth Vader, Death Star, X-Wings, Star Destroyers. Stormtroopers, and so on. Solo had Han Solo, Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon. Even then, Solo is the Star Wars franchise's one commercial failure.

You're talking about a Star Trek series without any of the iconic Star Trek elements. Like I said, a tough, virtually impossible sell.

It would be an uphill battle, but one has to wonder whether there could be a way to make more connections with Earth, because the Borg always seemed to only ever dip their toe in the waters of the Alpha Quadrant (1 cube at a time, no armadas), tip-toeing around it altogether most of the time. Maybe there was a deeper connection that made them hold back. I could come up with a bunch of scenarios off the top of my head. All things that could be explored.
 
Or we could just stick with what the novels told us about Columbia NX-02 being thrown back in time and then a Canadian MACO's screwup resulting in the creation of the Borg.
 
I guess that’s why my “Those Wacky Pakleds!” script never got picked up.

lol. If the Pakleds had transcended multiple ST series and movies the way the Borg have, I'd eat that up. Perhaps a series is too ambitious. DSC has been doing cool stuff with "Short Treks" that tell compelling stories in compact bits. That might be one way to do it with something like this, or your lovable Pakleds.
 
How about this idea gets combined with the Mirror Georgiou show. A secret Section 31 experiment to enhance humans goes horribly wrong -- but within, the ex-Emperor sees a new way to control the galaxy..... OK, I'll show myself out.
 
it would be nice if you could edit your post to make it sound less like this is a legitimate series CBS is going to produce.
 
Yeah, like "New Series Idea: Borg Origins / Rise of the Queen?" Then it's formed more in the phrase of a question and doesn't make it sound like, at first glance, CBS All Access might be doing this.

But for the topic, I think the Borg should be reintroduced in a 25th Century series first before delving into an Origin Story. Otherwise it looks so out of the blue in relation to what else they've been doing. The Borg haven't been the focus of anything in a long time.
 
Yeah, like "New Series Idea: Borg Origins / Rise of the Queen?" Then it's formed more in the phrase of a question and doesn't make it sound like, at first glance, CBS All Access might be doing this.

But for the topic, I think the Borg should be reintroduced in a 25th Century series first before delving into an Origin Story. Otherwise it looks so out of the blue in relation to what else they've been doing. The Borg haven't been the focus of anything in a long time.

Yeah that's true, I've just been watching a lot of Voyager lately, so it feels like they're in my living room, so much Borgness.

I don't see an edit option for the title of the thread, but if there's a way to do that, I'd be happy to.
 
I would be more interested in this if it were called either "The End of the Queen" or "Before the Queen", as i hate the concept of the Borg Queen.

If the Borg will be brought back, i hope they will be more like they were before First Contact.
 
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