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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Do you enjoy pie?

  • Yes, sweet, please

    Votes: 79 40.9%
  • Yes, savory, please

    Votes: 42 21.8%
  • Yes, any kind

    Votes: 80 41.5%
  • No, I'm a heathen

    Votes: 37 19.2%

  • Total voters
    193
Potemkin Pictures' total budget this year is $2240, or ~$186.67 per month. We're more than halfway there. Last year's was a little less, but we produced 15 Star Trek fan films, received 8 donated tulip chairs for the briefing room, produced several new Klingon uniforms, and started on our shuttlecraft, well, shuttlecoupe. This year, we're adding two monster maroons and finishing up the shuttlecoupe, all along producing 13-15 productions (two of which were shot in January).

When we moved from our 2000 sqft warehouse in Albany, Georgia, we intentionally sought homes within our budget that had either a detached studio or partially-completed basement in which we could rebuild our sets. The search took about six weeks, and we found three suitable houses in Metro-Birmingham that met those requirements. We selected a residence with a 500 sqft detached boathouse and 1000 sqft partially-completed basement. The boathouse has 100 amp service, and the residence has 300 amp service. We gave up our brig set, our engineering set and our corridors, reduced our bridge by 60 sqft, but the rest fits nicely. Total Rent: $0. Increase to utility bills shooting once or twice a month: $35-$55 (which Linda and I pay for ourselves).

I'm not sure why there's some sort of need for these big 6,000-10,000 sqft studios. Sure, they're awesome to visit (we've been to the Starship Farragut sets four times), but Farragut themselves hardly used them. Star Trek Continues shot a healthy amount of episodes after obtaining them from the Farragut guys, but then moved on. Ray Tesi has them now, and he appears to be shooting on them fairly often, but the rental costs of these studios, along with utilities, has to be massive. Glen Wolfe is putting his new sets into an actual house. The Starship Exeter/Starbase Studio sets are gone.

I only hope that these larger fan studios can get enough donations to continue producing fan films.
 
What I love in these interviews is Alec's repeated issue with having to pay out of his own pocket to cover the expenses of his clubhouses. Everytime he's quoted on it, he's making a deal about it, and making it clear that he expects alternative revenue streams to cover the costs, with an underlying blame on the fans for causing the "studio" to fail by not supporting it enough.

Seems to me, if he wants a facility hosting a bridge set, expecting him to foot the bill isn't unreasonable.

The other thing that continually amuses me is his repeated trick of something being a separate legal entity. He's been very quick to play this card with the current fundraiser, and probably most famously with the definitely-not-Alec-backed Axanar Fan Group. Because nothing says "loving fan film" like creating multiple legal entities.

Being fair, pulling in ~$600 a month on Patreon after only a few days is actually pretty damned good going. Not to mention the $600-odd he's claiming in Youtube revenue. That said though, will anyone be surprised if by the end of 2019 they've moved over to the smaller, cheaper space?
 
<door creaks open>

Hey guys, been awhile since I stuck my head in here. Anything changed? Nope? No Axanar? AP is still conning poor fanboys? Great, let me know if anything changes! I'm just gonna take some pie and go. See ya!

<closes door>

<reopens>


WHERE'S THE MOVIE, ALEC?!?

<slams door shut>
 
I'm just wondering what sort of income Mr. Peters has, from what type of employment, that allows him to drop $16K of his own money into covering four month's rent & utilities of the storage space / studio.........
 
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I'm just wondering what wort of income Mr. Peters has, from what type of employment, that allows him to drop $16K of his own money into covering four month's rent & utilities of the storage space / studio.........
Maybe he's giving cut-rate legal advice. He is, after all, a lawyer-by-training.

Of course, would you take legal advice from someone who goes out of his way to get sued so often?
 
Edit to add: It seems in Part 2 tomorrow we will find out why the filming hasn't started yet on Axanar.

I wonder who's fault it will be this time? CBSAA? Axamonitor? "Haterz"? I only know for sure it isn't the fault of LFIM.

Where's the movie, Alec?
 
<door creaks open>

Hey guys, been awhile since I stuck my head in here. Anything changed? Nope? No Axanar? AP is still conning poor fanboys? Great, let me know if anything changes! I'm just gonna take some pie and go. See ya!

<closes door>

<reopens>


WHERE'S THE MOVIE, ALEC?!?

<slams door shut>
Who was that masked man?!
 
FanFilmFactor has an interview with Alec about the new Patreon appeal:
https://fanfilmfactor.com/2019/01/2...ew-patreon-interview-with-alec-peters-part-1/

Edit to add: It seems in Part 2 tomorrow we will find out why the filming hasn't started yet on Axanar.
Does it fucking matter? It will just be the latest in a long string of "whys." "We got sued and CBS Corporate Man wouldn't let us!" "CBS Corporate Man made the guidelines more restrictive than i wanted!" "We had to finish the studio!" ""Our new director is working on the new script!" "We have to move the bridge set!" "We have to finish the bridge set!" "We have to make a deal for the new studio!" And my personal favorite: "We need more funding to do it, because I can't keep paying for this out of my own pocket! Surely you understand that?" The only importance the cliffhanger answer will have is measuring how inventive Alec's latest pile of bullshit is when it plops out of his talk hole.

I've moved on from our tagline. Asking this lying sack "Where's the film?" is like asking "Where's the beef?" in a vegan restaurant. It's not there. It will never be there.

You want the haters to stop, Slow Lane? Then pass this message onto ya boi: Stop talking up Axanar. Stop pretending you're making it, stop it with the youtube channel, the patreon, and all the other nonsense you're spewing to keep yourself the hope of desperate trek fans. Just go ahead and do whatever regular job you found and stop trying to act like a movie mogul, because as a movie mogul you make Cannon Films look classy and competent.

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP, ALEC!
 
FanFilmFactor has an interview with Alec about the new Patreon appeal:
https://fanfilmfactor.com/2019/01/2...ew-patreon-interview-with-alec-peters-part-1/

Edit to add: It seems in Part 2 tomorrow we will find out why the filming hasn't started yet on Axanar.

I'll save everyone the trouble of reading Part 2. The reason he hasn't started filming is because he's an incompetent charlatan. He wants to prolong this so he can bilk his dwindling cadre of sycophants until he can't anymore.

Everyone else saw through his charade years ago. The posts here on Trekbbs alone before, during and after the lawsuit is proof of that.
 
FanFilmFactor has an interview with Alec about the new Patreon appeal:
https://fanfilmfactor.com/2019/01/2...ew-patreon-interview-with-alec-peters-part-1/

Edit to add: It seems in Part 2 tomorrow we will find out why the filming hasn't started yet on Axanar.

It will probably be along the lines of that we wanted to make sure everything was perfect and in great shape so that we could deliver the highest quality product possible and it has taken us a year to finally get to the point where we are finally ready to create the amazing product that you expect. To rush would be to diminish what our donors and fans excpet... blah blah blah.
 
Spoiler: Here's why Axanar hasn't been made yet. Peters is waiting on Ares Digital 3.0 to be completed. Since he has no crowdfunding platform he's legally allowed to use, such as Indiegogo or Kickstarter, he has to have a private platform. So Ares Digital, which was originally designed to import fulfillment information from the crowdfunding platforms, now has to both manage the transactions collecting money from donors as well as facilitate delivering perks to existing donors.

This is according to Peters last night on Axanar Confidential. He can't raise money until Ares Digital is complete, and it's only about 75% complete (or so he says).
 
Here's my roundup of yesterday's Axanar Confidential:
http://trekzone.org/1701/2019012313231

Two takeaways include
- Alec claimed to have squashed the 90 minute script into 30 minutes “a year and a half ago” – whether this is the 2x 15 minute mockumentary styles that they’re doing now is unclear.
- Alec also alluded to Axanar shirts, full of Star Trek IP, presumably (coming) to version 3.0 of the Donor Store..

Also - can we stop saying Jonathan Lane "interviews" Alec Peters - instead posts press releases?
 
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