Doesn't both vaginas must work at the same time, or that there are two uteruses.
Regardless, I see no issue with Klingons having different anatomy. Makes more sense than just straight up human anatomy.
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Regardless, I see no issue with Klingons having different anatomy. Makes more sense than just straight up human anatomy.
You do realize that urination isn't a reproductive act, right?
Agreed. They evolved from humanoid biological ancestors who had exoskeletons (see TNG: Genesis) so it seems likely they would have other physiological differences relative to humans.
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I’ll just say I don’t understand acting offended over fictional two-headed penises. There’s other more valid things to be offended by, such as the Klingon war arc being boring, if you hold that opinion.
I'm not offended by it. Just odd they would be able to mate with human women if they are anatomically that different down there.
It's flipping odd that inter-species breeding is even a possibility at all.
It really is. There is some non-canon stuff about Spock being a complicated "merger", but now Trek just slaps them together with no regard to science.
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I think that if I felt offended by a TV show, that would mean I was taking it way too seriously.
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It's beyond "odd," it's one of the many ridiculously unscientific conceits that Trek has embraced from its beginning. And yeah, the fact that it's nonsensical was noted and discussed by science fiction fans way back when it first premiered.
That fig leaf the writers tried to put on it in "The Chase" just exacerbated how preposterous it is.
This kind of space opera is, very simply, many decades out of date no matter what's done with it. Part of the context of Harlan Ellison's frequent disdain for the show that isn't immediately evident fifty years later is that these kind of galactic-empire-with-navies yarns had ceased to be taken seriously within the genre back in the 1950s and there was a very conscious movement pushing away from such pulp magazine tropes among ambitious sf writers in the mid-to-late 60s. It doesn't matter whether one considers those folks to have been right or to have been solemnly pretentious twits, the kind of stuff Trek lifted from earlier media productions and stories to build its universe was dated even then.
Space opera is still published, of course. The few examples that tend to win awards and get a lot of attention now are at least self-aware enough to deconstruct some of the cliches that shows like STD and The Orville take for granted that the audience will accept.
I'm old and I have a soft spot for that stuff myself, such as The Tour of The Merrimack series which is a pretty unapologetic throw-back to the 40s and 50s stuff; the earliest books seem to have Trek as one inspiration. I even managed to consume most of the first five Honor Harrington books - talk about a Mary Sue!
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Certainly the fact that he's half-Vulcan must have made fans back in the day wonder what a pure Vulcan would look like if that's what a human/vulcan hybrid looks like. Only for Vulcans to look no different whatsoever. Wasn't there an episode that implied that full Vulcans were giants or am I misremembering from something else?
Thing is, Spock would be relatively easy to fix. Full Vulcan who lost his mother at an early age, with Amanda being his step-mother and bringing his feelings to the surface due to interacting with him when he was young.
That is if you were doing a reboot.
I think there was some conversation early on about what Vulcans looked like because Mudd spots Spock as only being partially Vulcan. But that fell by the wayside pretty quickly with season two's "Amok Time".
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Roddenberry really seemed to want the "half-breed" stereotypical character common in westerns of the time to be part of the show concept. The thinking about human/alien interfertility didn't go any deeper than that.
There was a character named "Mingo," played by Ed Ames, on the 1964 NBC TV series Daniel Boone who was somewhat popular then, and when Trek premiered Spock was compared by some to him. Mingo was of Cherokee and British descent, the Oxford-educated son of an Earl. Not surprisingly he often came off as more sophisticated than Fess Parker's Boone and many of the other characters. Whether there was any influence there on the way Spock came to be characterized in the writing may be moot - the dates don't quite work out, at least for the Trek pilot. But the point is that he wasn't an entirely unfamiliar type in the American television landscape of the day.
There was a character named "Mingo," played by Ed Ames, on the 1964 NBC TV series Daniel Boone who was somewhat popular then, and when Trek premiered Spock was compared by some to him. Mingo was of Cherokee and British descent, the Oxford-educated son of an Earl. Not surprisingly he often came off as more sophisticated than Fess Parker's Boone and many of the other characters. Whether there was any influence there on the way Spock came to be characterized in the writing may be moot - the dates don't quite work out, at least for the Trek pilot. But the point is that he wasn't an entirely unfamiliar type in the American television landscape of the day.
Yeah, I understand that. Spock could still be the "half-breed" in spirit being raised by a Vulcan father and human mother. We would just drop the ludicrous cross-species mating.
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