I think there should be a separate military organization in the Federation. Leave exploration and diplomacy to Starfleet--that's what they love to do, anyway. A UFP version of MACO fits the bill.
do you like the MACO's
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Yes, yes, I know. Though calling them "Marines" seems kind of tacky to me.In other words, this.
Yeah except no starfleet connectionIn other words, this.
I wouldn’t say that around them, they would probably put you in a hospital. Marine have savings ass since forever.
Why not?
Ever since TOS, we've known that the Federation Starfleet is a "combined service". Makes sense that the Starfleet "navy" would be the starship crews, and the "marines" would be the ground troops.
Both divisions are still Starfleet - they just use the appropriate rank system for each.
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They'd probably still be called "MACOs" colloquially, even if the organization wasn't called MACO. Why? Tradition.
But in a way wouldn’t that put them below starfleet. The head of the marine division would have to answer to a “navy” man, a man who probably knows nothing about ground operations. A military man would answer to a non military man who wasn’t even the president. In a way the starfleet could convince the president that the situation could be handled by diplomacy and weaken the federations position just so starfleet “navy” could try and take all the glory. By keeping them separate they both can report to the president or report to so minister or secretary that wasn’t biased.
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Read the post again I was in the middle of editing it and also the us marines and navy use to be on branch of sorts now they are just controlled by the same civilian department: the department of the navy. They were separate for a reason I just cannot find it
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Not necessarily.
Ideally, the Admiral who is in command of all of Starfleet's naval operations, and the General who is the commandant of the Starfleet marines, would both report to the Federation's secretary of defense. I don't see any reason why either division would have to be subordinate to the other.
Well I don’t know I just because I think United federation of planets marine corps sounds better. Why no t give them some independence. Also the navy back in the day tried having two top dogs Kinda like your suggesting, it didn’t work out so well.
I don't agree. IMHO, it's more efficient to have a single, unified military command.
Just have Starfleet be responsible for all military services- naval OR marine - that the Federation will ever need.
There's really no reason to have separate services where one will do.
Then explain why the US has 7 uniform service and they rock when apparently one is enough
Read it again. Stupid auto correctCome again?
Indeed. One service IS enough.
It works for the Canadian Forces, doesn't it? Ever since unification was achieved in 1968, Canada has had a single military command, just like the Starfleet we're discussing here. I don't see any real reason why this wouldn't work in the US as well. As it stands, the US military has far too many separate services - it's too inefficient and bureaucratic. It simply doesn't make any logical sense for there to be so many different services.
It's always more efficient to have FEWER branches, not MORE of them.
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Then explain how the us uniforms service/ armed forces are probably the best In the world and a lot of us military peoples would still support have them separate. And in the end they answer to one person so what’s wrong with letting them have there independence. And using Canada as evidence is not the best since they are so weak.
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If I were to serve in Starfleet hypothetically in the “navy” could I be transferred to the “marine” branch without warning because that would be a deal breaker for me also While canada does have a Unifed Command they still give the divisions there name now. Royal Canadian navy, royal Canadian army, Canadian army. Why not have starfleet do the same thing,
Federation starfleet and federation marines
Israel and Singapore do the same thing
Also the unification of Canada armed forces was protested by the military. It seems like politicians messing with stuff. Also fun fact when they were really unified everyone had he same rank insignia also All admiral grades had no way to tell each other apart, they all had just one big stripe. 2011 they Deunified a bit and gave back the three “branches” back there original rank insignia and there names
Federation starfleet and federation marines
Israel and Singapore do the same thing
Also the unification of Canada armed forces was protested by the military. It seems like politicians messing with stuff. Also fun fact when they were really unified everyone had he same rank insignia also All admiral grades had no way to tell each other apart, they all had just one big stripe. 2011 they Deunified a bit and gave back the three “branches” back there original rank insignia and there names
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Besides propaganda. They love telling everyone that stARflEet iSn'T mILitAry.
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