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The five-year mission irks me as a concept to begin with. We never saw hints of one in TOS, after all: nothing suggested a mission was ongoing (as opposed to individual sorties or dealing with whatever comes along), or that a schedule was set, that an end was to be expected. The ship jumped from assignment to assignment, sometimes she returned to base, sometimes she rotated some of the crew.
PineKirk's mission in ST:ID was supposed to be the first ever, and may have been conceptually very different from what ShatnerKirk did in TOS. But now for the first time we confront the idea of a mission of preset length in the usual universe, and we implicitly learn that a skipper can do that several times in a row. So our one and only hope of making sense of the TOS mission - that it was bookended by Kirk gaining command and relinquishing it, that is, it was Kirk's five-year assignment - is undermined when Pike doesn't step down after his five years. Will he even have time to sip a coffee before his next five?
Or does Pike first do a five-year mission and then merely spend five further years in command?
Timo Saloniemi
PineKirk's mission in ST:ID was supposed to be the first ever, and may have been conceptually very different from what ShatnerKirk did in TOS. But now for the first time we confront the idea of a mission of preset length in the usual universe, and we implicitly learn that a skipper can do that several times in a row. So our one and only hope of making sense of the TOS mission - that it was bookended by Kirk gaining command and relinquishing it, that is, it was Kirk's five-year assignment - is undermined when Pike doesn't step down after his five years. Will he even have time to sip a coffee before his next five?
Or does Pike first do a five-year mission and then merely spend five further years in command?
Timo Saloniemi
What? Really? Where can I read that script?
Ain't It Cool News has an extensive overview:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34635
I'm not aware of a fuller treatment existing.
Timo Saloniemi
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34635
I'm not aware of a fuller treatment existing.
Timo Saloniemi
Agreed.
It takes far more "mental gymnastics" to argue against Discovery's stated place in the Prime Universe of Star Trek because you have to come up with explanations and justifications for why you're both ignoring facts and singling out Discovery specifically for the visual changes it introduces and not doing so for the other series that also introduced visual (or conceptual) changes to what "came before".
Yes. It doesn't show it's good, but it shows that CBS is pretty sure it's good.
The thing about reviews is: they are ultimately one person’s opinion. Sure, professional critics (who are fewer and fewer each year... internet critics? Questionable.) may have a more educated opinion but it’s still opinion. I can say that something I watched is a sluggish piece of garbage and someone else can say it’s brilliant. At the end of the day, I watch what I find entertaining and turn off what I don’t. I might get an idea about a movie based on the RT score but if it’s something that looks fun, I’ll watch it. I pay little attention to internet polls because for the most part I think reliability on them are questionable at best. It is far too easy to skew those these days.
To me, season 2 of Disco LOOKS fun. The reviews to date seem to generally suggest that’s the consensus. I’ll give it a shot. Ultimately, I can form my own opinion.
To me, season 2 of Disco LOOKS fun. The reviews to date seem to generally suggest that’s the consensus. I’ll give it a shot. Ultimately, I can form my own opinion.
It really doesn't. The show doesn't look or feel anything like the universe as it was originally envisioned, then there's the idea that no one from the original is even involved.
https://www.utne.com/mind-and-body/ship-of-theseus-identity-ze0z1311zjhar
There comes a point where you've changed so much, it is no longer really related to the original.
Doesn't mean Discovery can't tell good stories though.
One would then have to apply that standard to EVERY Trek show since TOS.
SInce they were all "changed so much" from the Original.
That's like the proverbial 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' ...
Seems a bit harsh to me.
I'd rather go with we're just seeing things that had never been shown before, and slightly adjust my previous mindset to compensate.
That's a lot easier than completely rejecting the "New" and doesn't give me cause to have too consider it subverting 50 years of Trek entertainment going forward.
Why would you heavily market on a media 'cord cutters' don't watch.?
No, they've had an incident where they were damaged; and are seeking out the Discovery (Pike's been ordered to take Command) because its Spore Drive allows them to get to the anomalies faster than any other ship in the Fleet.
There's still no evidence that they'll use the drive.
I find it easier to treat it like the animated series and books. If they do something neat or nice with a character, I can add it to the overall character.
Like with Spock and the Abrams films. For any version of the character, I see those scenes with Amanda about Kohlinar and his rejection of the Vulcan Science Academy as part of any iteration of the character. I disregard other elements and only acknowledge them as part of a particular iteration, like Spock creating the Kobayashi Maru.
No way for them to get at most of the red spots without it.
Well there is the scene in the video below which show Stamets & Tilly getting ready to engage the Spore Drive...
Technically it is not conclusive that they actually do it, since we don't see the entire scene, but unless one is a complete pessimist, one would be more inclined to believe they do than not.
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Who says they're going to visit all of them?
Clearly they get into some hi-jinks on the way there, so they're clearly not going straight to the spot in a single bound.
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