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I like violence in movies and televison

Jayson1

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Is it wrong to basically admit this? I doubt I am the only one. I like action movie and kick-ass fighting scenes and in horror I even like the gore in stuff like "Evil Dead." Why are people so afraid to admit they like this stuff in movies and shows? I mean I enjoy other stuff as well such as witty dialogue and character drama or romance but I am not afraid to admit I like all the stuff that you can get out of a movie or tv show or different genre's but why are people afraid to admit that even like this stuff? Even to the point where we use euphemisms like ,action,adventure,combat etc.

Also am I the only person who can watch all sorts of bloody and violent and even gross stuff in a movie but can't watch something like those old surgery shows that show real surgeries. I can't watch someone give me a shot with a needle and frankly I can't watch some stuff on the news. I am so glad I never saw one of those beheaded videos on the internet where terrorist have captured someone. I think rape might be the one kind of violence that is kind of to hard to look at when dramatized. One of the reasons why I have problems rewatching a movie like "Clockwork Orange." I can handle most of the stuff in it except the "singing in the rain" rape scene. I mean I can handle it as a subject matter that is explored but not the actual showing of it within a movie.


Jason
 
Perhaps you have been desensitised by US TV and/or society, which appears to fetischise violence but abhors sex unless you pay for it.
 
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Perhaps you have been desensitised by US TV and/or society, which appears to fetischise violence but abhor sex unless you pay for it.

But I am not desensitized to it in real life. That's one of the things I find interesting about fiction. How things we accept in a movie is different from what we accept in real life. Yet what we except in fiction is kind of dark when you think about it. I think it's more about appealing to our inside animal side more than what society says. Society is just a set of rules created by humans who also have the same animal instincts as well. I think maybe movies and tv lets us process these more primitive vibes in a safe way which might be what appeals to us.


Jason
 
Agreed, I think our fascination with watching violence might be a primal thing in us humans. We have a past full of violence such as the gladiator games, public executions delivered as entertainment for the masses and such. Violent action movies are perhaps more polished, civilised and controlled versions of those.
 
I like violence. I dislike that I like it, and how much I like it.

I agree. Yet I resist any idea of people trying to remove it as well. I pretty much roll my eyes anytime people start wanting to blame violence in the real world on video games. and movies. But then I wonder. Is that me just not wanting them to take away all the fun stuff and replace it with nice safe boring stuff in it's place. The idea of "Full House" being as edgy as you can get kind of bothers me. It feels kind of disrespectful to think humans can't handle difficult or graphic stuff but then I sometimes think people can't handle that stuff.


Jason
 
OTOH, I like sex (watching and participating) WAY more than I like violence. Despite my lesser experience with it.

So, just swap them out and I'd be fine.
 
I've never been all that into watching sex or even nudity to a big degree. I mean I want to have sex but to me it's kind of like bowling. It's something fun to do but I don't want to really watch to much of it on tv. It's even kind of boring. I mean nothing beats ones imagination anyways in that regard. Or a real person but that is going off theory from what I hear from others.

Jason
 
My acceptance of fictional violence has a lot to do with how capable the victim is of defending themselves. Two people killing each other I can enjoy, but movies that are just slaughtering innocent people I have trouble watching. Maybe if there’s some kind of artistic statement being made.

Full House is more damaging to children than violent film. It warps their view of normal social interaction. It creates an overly idyllic expectation of social dynamics and creates the impression that people in real life, for example, just shrug off obnoxious wise cracks and will never get frustrated with you for all kinds of personal slights.

Normal sitcoms are a statement of radical support for the idealized status quo.
 
I don’t mind cartoon violence. I’m watching Bad Boys right now. It has its moments. Films like Total Recal, very violent. Fine. But it’s not to be taken seriously.

Violence in serious drama though, torture, suffering. Not for me.
 
Full House is more damaging to children than violent film. It warps their view of normal social interaction. It creates an overly idyllic expectation of social dynamics and creates the impression that people in real life, for example, just shrug off obnoxious wise cracks and will never get frustrated with you for all kinds of personal slights.

Normal sitcoms are a statement of radical support for the idealized status quo.
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Are you capable of rebutting someone with words instead of memes? Apparently not.

When I was a kid, copying the way characters behaved in sitcoms created more social problems for me than any of the violent movies I watched,
 
Are you capable of rebutting someone with words instead of memes? Apparently not.
People who impress themselves like they won something by answering their own questions in the affirmative before giving others a chance to respond are a million times more obnoxious than any meme.

What would you like me to rebut? It's such a stupid concept on the face of it that it barely deserves scrutiny, much less rebuttal. I've never heard anyone go on a shooting spree because they were inspired by Full House, so I'm going to have to chalk violent films up as being more damaging than some kid who's apparently incapable of independent thought and gets brainwashed by a two-year-old's scripted quips.

Not that I think violent films in and of themselves are the problem rather than just a contributor to them, but the idea that lame kid's sitcoms are a greater danger is just patently ridiculous and laughable, hence the meme.
When I was a kid, copying the way characters behaved in sitcoms created more social problems for me than any of the violent movies I watched,
Well, it's very fortunate that YOU were more influenced by cheesy sitcoms than violent films given your susceptibility to suggestion, but I'd hate to think what other children who weren't that bright might be inspired to do while watching violent movies since your personal anecdote doesn't equal the world at large.

By the way, since you're making the claim, do you have any documentation on this connection between cheesy kids sitcoms and poor socialization skills? I mean, you're claiming that you had interaction with other peers, so that should have been a more influential factor in developing social skills than sitcoms would unless you spent most of your time growing up in front of a television.
 
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Are you capable of rebutting someone with words instead of memes? Apparently not.

When I was a kid, copying the way characters behaved in sitcoms created more social problems for me than any of the violent movies I watched,


That's your personal issue, not a problem with the entertainment you consumed.

For you to have reached those kinds of conclusions required you to privilege the content of fiction you passively consumed for a few hours on however regular a basis over your continuing observations of and interactions with people in the real world.
 
I sort of agree with the Full House analogy though it's not really the shows fault. I have also heard this idea using other examples that range from romantic movies to Halmark Cards Also not to different than how people judge their looks by comparing them to the almost unrealistic amount of sexy people on tv and in the movies.. The idea that these things create such unrealistic examples that people can feel empty if life doesn't measure up. I know I have felt like that myself.

Why is my family not like the Brady Bunch. Am I really happy if I don't seem to be having as much fun as the people on tv. I don't think people are stupid. I think we are mentally aware that tv and movies create these kind of fake views on life yet I still think it impacts us anyways. I do think it's also a bigger issue when people are younger than when they get old. By the time you get old your to cynical to buy into any of it anymore.

Jason
 
On some sitcoms smart-mouthed kids are greeted with laughter, unlike in real life when it might earn them a smack at the very least.
 
It depends on the context for me. If It serves the story, I'll usually go along with it. However, sometimes I feel they tend to go a little too far, like the two season 1 episodes of Outlander where large portions of the episodes focus on Jaime getting graphically tortured, which is something I hadn't expected to that point in what otherwise has been fairly balanced. Those were hard to watch and large portions had to be fast-forwarded.

However, if something is purely gratuitous, it's likely a no go for me. (Church scene at the end of Kingsman comes to mind, and is something that made me uncomfortable.)
 
I like gratuitous if it is in the right film or show. I don't think I would ever watch "Evil Dead" for example and think that this movie should have been more subtle. When comes to more serious drama's then I don't mind graphic if it's done in small doses or at least the subject matter warrants it. A War movie for example or something like "Schindler's List" for example. I think torture porn might be the biggest example of it going to far. I think "The Devils Rejects" might be one of the few movies that I liked that you could maybe put that label on.

What is also interesting though is when you see violence that is super intense but not as graphic as you think it is. Like the scene in "Pulp FIction" when the gimp is killed by the sword. You never see it happen. You only think you saw it with how it was filmed. Or in "Reservoir Dogs" when the camera pans away before you see Madsen cut the ear off the cop. These are things I started to notice more as I got older with movies.


Jason
 
I don't know but I imagine that there might be a reinforcing neurotransmitter feedback loop involved in the enjoyment of violence -- be it sport, computer gaming or dramatic entertainment. It might be as simple as the stimulation of adrenalin release although it's probably more complicated. There is almost certainly some level of addiction involved. Personally, I find violence intellectually unstimulating and incredibly boring after having seen enough examples. I speculate there must be a small number of people that should avoid such stimulation if it can push them over the edge into committing violent acts. For most people, their social filters keep them in check.
 
Is it wrong to basically admit this? I doubt I am the only one. I like action movie and kick-ass fighting scenes and in horror I even like the gore in stuff like "Evil Dead." Why are people so afraid to admit they like this stuff in movies and shows? I mean I enjoy other stuff as well such as witty dialogue and character drama or romance but I am not afraid to admit I like all the stuff that you can get out of a movie or tv show or different genre's but why are people afraid to admit that even like this stuff? Even to the point where we use euphemisms like ,action,adventure,combat etc.

Also am I the only person who can watch all sorts of bloody and violent and even gross stuff in a movie but can't watch something like those old surgery shows that show real surgeries. I can't watch someone give me a shot with a needle and frankly I can't watch some stuff on the news. I am so glad I never saw one of those beheaded videos on the internet where terrorist have captured someone. I think rape might be the one kind of violence that is kind of to hard to look at when dramatized. One of the reasons why I have problems rewatching a movie like "Clockwork Orange." I can handle most of the stuff in it except the "singing in the rain" rape scene. I mean I can handle it as a subject matter that is explored but not the actual showing of it within a movie.


Jason
Considering the massive success of extremely violent movies and TV shows, you are certainly not alone.

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