That's how Brooks wanted to style himself. Hair on head and clean face was the look the studio IMPOSED on him.
Does the way a character is styled affect your opinion of them?
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There's a common misconception about that. The color confusion of the Kirk-Sulu tunic was not caused by NTSC, nor by the film stock they were shooting on. It was the dye itself. Theiss bought white fabric and dyed it, and the pale shade of "green" he chose for Command looked green under ordinary lights, but under bright studio lights or sunlight, the same pigment looked yellow-gold. And this was to the naked eye, in person. The show's 35mm film and the orginal television broadcasts were accurate.
Theiss himself did not work on set, under those bright lights, so he thought the uniforms were green. He used a darker shade of green on the wraparound tunic, which was originally intended to ensure that one Kirk in "The Enemy Within" would be easy to distinguish from the other.
When Star Trek was re-mastered for the 2006 DVDs, they falsely "corrected" the image by deliberately biasing the uniforms back toward green. That was a mistake. The shirts really were gold when seen in bright light.
I think different uniforms and costumes are a great way to show individuality. I just don’t know why they would only pick one or two women on each series to stand apart from the rest of the crew.
I don’t know if the catsuits would have had the same impression on me if men wore a similar look or even something unique to each character. What bothered me most was that there was the main cast wearing one costume but then one or two good looking females wearing something completely different to accentuate them.
I kind of wish they would have kept it to a pants/skirt/sleeve difference. The thing that threw me off the most was that Troi was wearing purple and Seven’s outfits were pretty random.
I agree. I think if they followed this model with every character it would be more fitting. Even if it was little details that they changed while still maintaining coheasion.
Seven didn't have a Starfleet rank. The same goes for many of the former Maquis. Yet they gave them uniforms. Seven looked great in the blue Science uniform in Relativity.
See, but now you're talking about an in-universe explanation, not the meta. And there was one - supposedly, the catsuit was designed to be more comfortable for her after the Borg stuff was removed. Kinda crap, but there it is.
To the OP: Yes.
I was frustrated when Voyager kept it's uniforms after DS9 and the TNG movies introduced the newer design with the grey (?) shoulder portions.
I realize there was an "in-universe" explanation, but it was always very jarring, and made the VOY characters look silly.
I was frustrated when Voyager kept it's uniforms after DS9 and the TNG movies introduced the newer design with the grey (?) shoulder portions.
I realize there was an "in-universe" explanation, but it was always very jarring, and made the VOY characters look silly.
Of course you would!
I couldn't disagree more.
She's a Starfleet Officer. She should act and dress like one while on duty. Hell, Ro had to get a Captain's exception just to wear a stupid earring! Why should an officer need to show a "degree of non-conformity"? She can do that off-duty.
When she was in her proper uniform she conveyed more confidence and authority.
It also showed that she was equal to the other members of the crew, not just some "advisor" of lesser rank.
The Sisko's beard gets mentioned before Riker's beard, what the fork?!
Riker's beard was the foundation stone of TNG becoming the show we know and love.
Before The Beard Riker was Will Decker, once we have The Beard Riker acquires more gravitas and depth, how that works, we don't know it is simply the power of The Beard.
Also Seven's catsuit kind of made sense as it evolved from a medical garment designed by the EMH. T'Pol had no such excuse she should have dressed like other Vulcans we see, either in robes or a practical uniform. Her choice of clothing is as illogical as she is.
Riker's beard was the foundation stone of TNG becoming the show we know and love.
Before The Beard Riker was Will Decker, once we have The Beard Riker acquires more gravitas and depth, how that works, we don't know it is simply the power of The Beard.
Also Seven's catsuit kind of made sense as it evolved from a medical garment designed by the EMH. T'Pol had no such excuse she should have dressed like other Vulcans we see, either in robes or a practical uniform. Her choice of clothing is as illogical as she is.
Maybe they didn't want Sisko looking like Hawk on Spenser For Hire.
Oh, and here's another little weird tidbit. When Brooks got his own Spenser spinoff show called A Man Named Hawk, there was a character in it that Hawk always referred to as "Old Man." Does that sound familiar?
Me I also would prefer if they showed the character in casual off duty clothes more often. Which they did begin to improve on as the franchise went longer but they could still do more. I mean do soldiers were their military uniforms around home and when they go to the movies and stuff like that when they are off duty? Me I always enjoyed Sisko's civilian clothes and "Enterprise" was really great in this department. Sometimes they would even wear things I would wear out in real life.
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Avery Brooks grooming regimen was not a costume or mask he wore for Spenser for Hire. Indeed, he sported a beard well before that series. It was a look he preferred and auditioned with. I'm sure audiences were smart enough to distinguish between Hawk and Sisko. No one had problems telling the difference between Picard and Professor X … or Sterling, for that matter.
And yet problematic aspects of her costuming remained. She was in a form-fitting uniform and required to wear, what she called, an industrial-strength bra (probably similar to Terry Farrell's "mastectomy bra"). Sirtis herself claims that the bra caused her issues with body image, and she regrets that it drove her to pursue plastic surgery.
I'm not sure we should be patting ourselves on the backs for preferring one look over the other.
Perhaps you should look at the post to which I was responding, which described Brooks' preferred look as a step back.Okay.Not sure how to respond or what response you want. I guess I can go try to track down the producers who "imposed" that look on Brooks and then maybe we'll have the answer.
Well we’re not talking about Sirtis here, were talking about Troi.
It makes more sense to me that a Starfleet officer should be in a Starfleet uniform while on duty.
It was better for the character, IMHO. Costuming issues for the actress aren’t at issue (although they are unfortunate).
It makes more sense to me that a Starfleet officer should be in a Starfleet uniform while on duty.
It was better for the character, IMHO. Costuming issues for the actress aren’t at issue (although they are unfortunate).
Perhaps, but the truth is that the interstellar cheerleader look never went away entirely, did it? It evolved in different directions.
Well, that's simply his opinion. I wouldn't say it would have been a step back (not sure what he even meant by making that comment) but I can clearly see the possibility of studio executives wanting Sisko to look different than Hawk. Your analogy of Stewart as Picard and Prof X doesn't work because Professor X looks like that. There was nothing to change.
