Should be called the Horseshoe Crab.
Starship design history in light of Discovery
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You know what? That would make a cool Section 31 ship for season 2. It reminds me a lot of the USS Vengeance.
Oooh! That's pretty! It does definitely appear to be a part of the Saber's (Sabre's?) design lineage. A shame we haven't seen this one on-screen sooner.Some DSC Concept art, labelled as the USS Jefferies.
Some DSC Concept art, labelled as the USS Jefferies.
Wow, that ship design looks great!...as a post-Nemesis design. Not so much ten years before TOS. Maybe Eaves will recycle it as the Enterprise-F for the Picard show, since he’s good at that.
At least that's an improvement over the current Enterprise FWow, that ship design looks great!...as a post-Nemesis design. Not so much ten years before TOS. Maybe Eaves will recycle it as the Enterprise-F for the Picard show, since he’s good at that.
At least that's an improvement over the current Enterprise F
Agreed 100%.
I disagree.
I figured people would. Personally, I cannot stand the current F design.
Luckily, like the Titan, if it’s not onscreen, it ain’t canon.
I hated the Enterprise-F when I first saw it. Then that monstrosity started to grow on me.
Were a canonical, onscreen Enterprise-F similar to that if and when we actually get one I'd kinda be okay with it. I mean, the Enterprise-J looked absolutely ridiculous the very first time I laid eyes on it and here I am nearly 15 years later being perfectly fine with that design as a late 26th century Enterprise.
Were a canonical, onscreen Enterprise-F similar to that if and when we actually get one I'd kinda be okay with it. I mean, the Enterprise-J looked absolutely ridiculous the very first time I laid eyes on it and here I am nearly 15 years later being perfectly fine with that design as a late 26th century Enterprise.
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Yeah its not canon, its in Star Trek Online and a few of the books but that's it, not sure about the J but it was in Enterprise so that probably makes it canon.
The main problem with the J is that the model is such low quality that it looks rubbish, a model that large requires huge amounts of detail to look right but they never really bothered as it was a blink and you will miss it kind of thing, they got away with the Borg cubes simply by creating one area and then reusing it over and over again.
Would like to see a series or films moving forward from TNG/VOY/DS9 but its unlikely at this point as it would clash with the books and STO resulting in a mess.
The best option would be to time jump and do a J era series with Data in command, they could just about get away with it.
The Enterprise J looks like an Enterprise E that was left in the sun for too long and began to melt.
Actually, the Ent-J was meant to be a descendant of the NX-01, since in the timeline in which it exists, the Sphere Builders' Expanse advanced from the 22nd century to the 26th, where it overtook most of Federation space. Since this timeline is different from the prime universe timeline, I would conjecture that all the other Enterprises from the Ent-nil to the Ent-I were all based on the NX-01, and that they were probably all destroyed fighting the Sphere Builders.
The Sphere-Builders contacted the Xindi in the 22nd Century because they saw that they would lose against the Federation in the 26th Century, at the battle Daniels shows Archer.
So the Ent-J existed before they tried to change history.
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The Discoprise doesn't have the TOS aesthetic! Buuuut, part of Fuller's concept, according to Eaves, was for the Enterprise to stand out, thus squared nacelles for everything but the Big E, and flat / no-necks except for the Big E, etc. And yet, the overblown aztecing ended up making the Discoprise look much less like TOS and much more like the rest of the Discofleet. As with most of the Fuller ideas executed by not Fuller, they came off halfbassackward.
Where did Eaves say that?
But they didn’t change history, so everything we saw with the Ent-J fighting the Sphere Builders in the 26th century didn’t happen. Daniels just showed Archer a possible future history.
The Enterprise-J existed in a timeline where the Delphic Expanse grew unchecked for centuries. "Zero Hour" destroyed the Spheres and Expanse in 2153, changing everything thereafter. If there is a prime Enterprise-J, it would look entirely different. If it's made by the Disco people, it will look entirely different on principle.