Best since "The big blue ball" from "Seven Days".
"Timeless" TV Movie Finale Dec 20 Discussion Thread
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I never really cared for the Lifeboat that much. It's kind of a clumsy design.
By the way, they made a half-hearted attempt at scientific credibility in the finale when they referred to the big whirly rings as "Tipler cylinders," in reference to the 1974 Frank Tipler paper showing that a path around a massive rotating cylinder (or black hole) could loop back through time. But I don't think that quite works. After all, they're rings, not cylinders, and the craft is inside them, not looping around them. A better term would've been "Kerr rings," after the theory that the ring singularity of a rotating black hole would function as a time portal. (ST:TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise" explained its time warp as "a Kerr loop of superstring material," which almost works except for misusing "superstring.")
By the way, they made a half-hearted attempt at scientific credibility in the finale when they referred to the big whirly rings as "Tipler cylinders," in reference to the 1974 Frank Tipler paper showing that a path around a massive rotating cylinder (or black hole) could loop back through time. But I don't think that quite works. After all, they're rings, not cylinders, and the craft is inside them, not looping around them. A better term would've been "Kerr rings," after the theory that the ring singularity of a rotating black hole would function as a time portal. (ST:TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise" explained its time warp as "a Kerr loop of superstring material," which almost works except for misusing "superstring.")
Now that was a very nice film prop... Probably languished and destroyed. I wish that series had been given a home video release but there was so much complications with music rights on that show.
It is on DVD.
You can also get it directly from VEI.
Seven Days had music rights problems? This is the first I've heard of that.
That is what I read about 5 or 6 years ago when tvondvd mentioned this was coming to dvd. I didn't read it there but on reddit or somewhere like that.
I hope they ship here to Australia.
EDIT: Just looked on their site. They only ship to Canada and the USA. Oh bum
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I finally watched this. I enjoyed it the same that I enjoyed the rest of the series--as a guilty pleasure. Lots of nonsensical, light weight things in it. But, I enjoyed the characters and the look back at history.
Flynn is a real tragic hero and I thought his ending was perfect. The image of him watching himself with his family was tragically sad. I doubt I'd rewatch the series, but anyone who does would see his character in a very different light the second time around--which is always a cool thing. Ultimately, he atoned for his sins by sacrificing himself. The comparison with Zorro was a good one. Sometimes people are fucked over by history and that has consequences.
It was a nice wrap up. Essentially two new stories and the closure of Rittenhouse. Ending Rittenhouse was a bit weak and abrupt but it was pretty consistent where things had ended previously. Rittenhouse was slowly but consistently ground down over the course of the series.
The series finale did what it had to do. It was true to its strengths and weaknesses. It was an episode of Timeless that happened to be the finale. They did a good job.
Flynn is a real tragic hero and I thought his ending was perfect. The image of him watching himself with his family was tragically sad. I doubt I'd rewatch the series, but anyone who does would see his character in a very different light the second time around--which is always a cool thing. Ultimately, he atoned for his sins by sacrificing himself. The comparison with Zorro was a good one. Sometimes people are fucked over by history and that has consequences.
It was a nice wrap up. Essentially two new stories and the closure of Rittenhouse. Ending Rittenhouse was a bit weak and abrupt but it was pretty consistent where things had ended previously. Rittenhouse was slowly but consistently ground down over the course of the series.
The series finale did what it had to do. It was true to its strengths and weaknesses. It was an episode of Timeless that happened to be the finale. They did a good job.
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I might do that in February for my birthday on the 14th... I have a friend in Texas who hovers between there and Indiana during the year. She can post to me.
But wasn't having Emma just turn out evil lazy?
Did Timeless get worse with each passing season? I had two female roommates who were huge fans of Atlantis and never seen an episode of SG-1. That still bugs me to this day.
It only had two seasons and a finale movie. I'd say the quality was fairly consistent (i.e. moderately entertaining but dumb and illogical), but the plotting in season 2 was less coherent, and the finale movie was little more than an exercise in tying off loose ends and ultimately made little sense.
Did you miss the episodes with other Voyagers (ie. Bogg's colleagues and superiors)? They weren't all on the same side.
I'm reminded of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol series. The protagonists are engaged in making sure history goes right, as defined by the Danellians - humanity's next successor species a million years in the future.
The Danellians are presented as old and wise, almost god-like. Meeting one produces a profound sense of awe in ordinary humans. So they're just making sure that in the time between the discovery of time travel, no unscrupulous person can interfere with the history that resulted in the Danellians' own existence.
I forgot about this airing and just watched it. I felt like it gave a solid conclusion to the series with the good guys getting happy endings.
Left it some open-endedness for a extremely unlikely continuation.
When Emma was shot and left in North Korea and everyone returned to the present I was expecting changes. If this hadn't been made as a series finale I wonder if Emma had been captured and treated and her knowledge of the future led to a hugely different future when everyone returned to 2018 and needing to return to North Korea to finish off/capture Emma.
Left it some open-endedness for a extremely unlikely continuation.
When Emma was shot and left in North Korea and everyone returned to the present I was expecting changes. If this hadn't been made as a series finale I wonder if Emma had been captured and treated and her knowledge of the future led to a hugely different future when everyone returned to 2018 and needing to return to North Korea to finish off/capture Emma.
Sorry to reply to an old thread.
I watched season 2 over the weekend and I think for the most part the show was entertaining but ordinary.
Emma was one of my biggest pet peeves with this show in season 2. I like the actress but geez lazy writing by just making her evil / psycho just for the hell of it. There was no depth to her character "I'm evil bwawawaa bang I shot you" and that's about it. She was little more then a thief with a time machine, and that concept would have made for a better show I think a time traveling thief. But as it stood Emma just was one note.
Also the super cliche of uber organization Rittenhouse which was like every other evil organization ever. What exactly was their end game before Emma snuffed them out? Not so tough guys when one chick can toast your leadership with a handgun.
It was an OK show but yeah as others have said there were a few bits of plot you could drive a tank through. Some of did make sense and some didn't.
I watched season 2 over the weekend and I think for the most part the show was entertaining but ordinary.
Emma was one of my biggest pet peeves with this show in season 2. I like the actress but geez lazy writing by just making her evil / psycho just for the hell of it. There was no depth to her character "I'm evil bwawawaa bang I shot you" and that's about it. She was little more then a thief with a time machine, and that concept would have made for a better show I think a time traveling thief. But as it stood Emma just was one note.
Also the super cliche of uber organization Rittenhouse which was like every other evil organization ever. What exactly was their end game before Emma snuffed them out? Not so tough guys when one chick can toast your leadership with a handgun.
It was an OK show but yeah as others have said there were a few bits of plot you could drive a tank through. Some of did make sense and some didn't.
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