Interesting titbit but that still doesn't get the Scalosians off the bridge, just into the turbolift
What The Heck?....That Makes No Sense.
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Another little trick was that accelerated Kirk left the bridge by walking off camera, and then you hear footsteps seemingly going down a flight of stairs.
I agreeI think in Wink of An eye they got the time thing wrong! I mean Kirk was ambling his way around the Enterprise but Scotty was still stuck between those two half open doors for a little too long, especially when we saw Spock and McCoy working on a formula in the laboratory!
JB
Every time I see the episode I want Scotty to move a bit more across the transporter room. I also kept thinking that Spock and McCoy are spending too much time going back and forth from the bridge to the lab to the bridge to the lab again.
I think the writers were thinking the speed up was say in the order of 1000 times but with the fooling around McCoy and Spock were doing finding Kirk was missing, working out a formula, reading the message just took too long. So for time taken it was probably more like 1 in 20.
Still aside from the inconsistent time acceleration, what the heck moments such as the sonic boom, phaser hits, Compton's corpse and how they used the turbolifts never occurred to me as what-the -heck moments.
Of course they do now.
But you get what they were trying to do and the ducking the phaser effect was pretty entertaining.
We could of course argue that Scotty keeps coming and going. Like, "All right, Mr. Scott, I'm here now. What do you want me to do, exactly, Sir?" "Stand by, Mr. Scott." "Bloody 'ell, I've got things to do." (turns around) "Mr. Scott, it is imperative that the transporter be kept from activating again." "Shoulda said so, Sir. Will do." (turns around again) "Hmm. That's pretty clever. Don't know who did it, but... Whoa, it's reversing! I need my dynospanner!" (turns around again) "Unless..." (turns around again)
Etc.
Timo Saloniemi
Etc.
Timo Saloniemi
If that's the case, then seeing Scotty "stopped" in the same position every time we go to the Transporter room is analogous to a rotating fan blade that seems to "stop" because a strobe light keeps hitting it when it's at a certain point of rotation.
In that case, I refer you to my earlier post for the location of said exit:
Yep, it was right next to Spock's console, as shown here:
Of course, the console next to Spock has to retract and slide away, but since no-one really ever uses that station is a nought but a minor inconvenience...
That's great stuff, thanks (nice article overall!), and somehow I was aware of that separately although I don't remember how. But I don't agree that all doors on the Enterprise were open. There are many shots of closed doors throughout the episode and I think, when Spock leaves the bridge after Kirk disappears, you hear the whoosh of the bridge doors. It also seems unlikely that the turbolifts would work with the doors open, but no one mentions having to climb everywhere.
If that's the case, then seeing Scotty "stopped" in the same position every time we go to the Transporter room is analogous to a rotating fan blade that seems to "stop" because a strobe light keeps hitting it when it's at a certain point of rotation.
If I recall correctly, in a nice touch, Scotty actually moves a little further into the room as the episode progresses.
Does he, Phase? I don't think he does! He's permanently stuck between the half opened doors as I recall!
JB
JB
JB, I just started Christmas vacation (yay!) and I never, ever need an excuse to watch Wink of an Eye again, so I will watch it over the holidays and report back. My recollection is that he does move a little bit farther into the room.
I kbnow some of TOS - "Court Martial" was covered to a poinbt, but MY ONE question about the whole setup even watching it as a child was:
"With all the intelligent/talking computers and various sensors that can detect something as small as a ship light years away; why did they need a Human to go sit in an actual Pod to take readings as they passed through an Ion Storm - and why would it ever have to be ejected? Hell, why couldn't Spock flip a switch on the Bridge that started the Pod taking readings and sending them to the ship's computer or a monitor on the Bridge?
Th whole idea of: "There has to be a Human in the Pod..." and "The Pod needs to be ejected from the ship because 'reasons'..." just made no $#@!$ sense in the first place.
"With all the intelligent/talking computers and various sensors that can detect something as small as a ship light years away; why did they need a Human to go sit in an actual Pod to take readings as they passed through an Ion Storm - and why would it ever have to be ejected? Hell, why couldn't Spock flip a switch on the Bridge that started the Pod taking readings and sending them to the ship's computer or a monitor on the Bridge?
Th whole idea of: "There has to be a Human in the Pod..." and "The Pod needs to be ejected from the ship because 'reasons'..." just made no $#@!$ sense in the first place.
Its funny what makes WTH moments to one person is OK with another. I'm OK with this and the lawyer thing but have more problems with the chair switch and Spock's logic about computer programs being changed.
I think having the pod jetison just being one switch on the captain's chair has sort of been explained as a "just for this ion storm situation". Still as a normal course of events having the pod jetison switch be a dropped cup of coffee away from disaster seems pretty silly.
Spock's logic of "I" programmed the computer in chess so I should never be able to beat it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. Maybe Spock's a better chess player than he is a computer programmer. Maybe he learned a few smooth chess moves off Kirk after he programmed the computer. Spock being able to beat the computer in chess doesn't really prove anything.
And only 2 universes.
Worse, DS9 continues the "there are only two universes: Ours and the mirror" trope, which by 1995 was iconic to the show anyway. Unlike "Sliders", "Doctor Who", and other shows opining an infinite number of universes.
There were more than two. The others just weren't relevant to mu episodes.
But, as we all know, "Court Martial" takes place in a world where magnifying a sound by a factor of "one to the fourth power" makes it louder...
I love this episode because it provided a reason for the creation of Samuel T. Cogley (and, in turn, the casting of Elisha Cook Jr. to portray him), so I forgive it everything.
Looked at logically, using recent reality TV and Bill Paxton films as a resource, the pod is there so the Enterprise can participate in a Starfleet-wide study of Ion storms, and needs to be manually armed. Once Red Alert is called, the pod is jettisoned to ride the storm and transmit data until the storm destroys it. Whoever has to go into the pod needs to arm it and get out before Red Alert status is called. It's interstellar storm-chasing at its finest.
Yeah, McCoy uses the microphone thingy to mask everyones' heartbeats. Then Kirk tells Spock to mask the transporter technicians' heartbeat with the computer. Why not just have Spock blot out everyones' thump-thump with his science station controls?
I work in IT and have a programming degree, but I had less issues with that aspect of it because of the nature of A.I. programming (even today) - and the interesting thing about the way the change was presented means the playback was 100% digital (IE no physical/actual images were recorded and the system is such (with proper knowledge you could create anything).
I DO have an issue that (again in story) with Spock's 'Computer Survey' - that a 23rd Century Computer expert (like Spock) could not find ANY evidence of slight modifications . Essentially the writers are saying Finney's such an amazing expert he can fool a Vulcan who's main job is dealing with the ship's computer systems. But, again, if they find the issue early, the 'drama' disappears.
Yeah, McCoy uses the microphone thingy to mask everyones' heartbeats. Then Kirk tells Spock to mask the transporter technicians' heartbeat with the computer. Why not just have Spock blot out everyones' thump-thump with his science station controls?
Or just have Spock run a scan and say how many people are aboard, then present the math to the court.
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