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Rey and the sad devolution of the female character

Luke has had some piloting experience. In "A New Hope" he mentioned flying the T-16 skyhopper before. Biggs mentioned it as well.
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Is flying in atmosphere the same as flying in space?

Well, this is Star Wars.
Or Han. Both deaths were stupid and unecesary.
Both served the story just fine and progressed the characters. I might not like them but I would hesitate to describe them as stupid or unnecessary.
 
The Incom T-16 has basically the same controls as the Incom T-65 X-wing. That was almost exactly why the Alliance was able to get pilots for their X-wing squadrons, was because so many people had experiance with the T-16 and similar craft on their own homeworlds before hooking up with the Rebel Alliance.

And given what the Empire does to its fighter corps, it doesn't seem like there needs to be a lot of experience to fly these things. Its more a matter of if you are good enough to survive in combat. And that's really hard in a TIE Fighter if the enemy isn't scared of you at the start. X-wings at least have shields.
 
Han's was necessary by the real world fact that Harrison Ford no longer wanted to be part of the franchise.
A fact rendered moot when you realize that Ford wasn't part of the franchise for the 32 years that separated his last two performances as Solo. You know, those 32 years he spent having the career he could not have had if it hadn't been for Solo in the first place. It's not like he was typecast or anything.

No, nobody will ever convince me that Han and Luke's deaths were a good thing. I can accept them, but I don't have to like them.
 
A fact rendered moot when you realize that Ford wasn't part of the franchise for the 32 years that separated his last two performances as Solo.

People by and large wanted Han Solo in any continuation of the original Star Wars trilogy. Having him die at his son's hand after his relationship with Leia broke apart seemed fitting.
 
I accept them and don't like them and think they served the story perfectly well.
Indeed. The problem is, the stories are bad to begin with. ;)

I also want her and Finn to hook up. None of this Poe/Finn nonsense. :)
Until about a week ago, story-wise, Finn was so dehumanized by the FO he hadn't even given himself a name. In other words, regardless of how old he appears, emotionally speaking, he's probably a severely traumatized adolescent at best. So... I'm thinking he's probably not quite ready for any kind of sexual relationship with an adult. He's basically 7 of 9 a week after her de-Borgification.
 
Ford said it wasn't him who suggested Han's death for TFA. They came up with it on their own.

Both the writer for ESB,RoTJ, and TFA,and Ford wanted to kill Han off back in the OT films, thinking his arc was over. Lucas didn't agree because he wanted to keep the pairing with Liea to continue to the next generation of Skywalkers.
 
Both the writer for ESB,RoTJ, and TFA,and Ford wanted to kill Han off back in the OT films, thinking his arc was over. Lucas didn't agree because he wanted to keep the pairing with Liea to continue to the next generation of Skywalkers.
I know that, but specifically this time, Ford said it wasn't who suggested it.
 
Indeed. The problem is, the stories are bad to begin with. ;)

Until about a week ago, story-wise, Finn was so dehumanized by the FO he hadn't even given himself a name. In other words, regardless of how old he appears, emotionally speaking, he's probably a severely traumatized adolescent at best. So... I'm thinking he's probably not quite ready for any kind of sexual relationship with an adult. He's basically 7 of 9 a week after her de-Borgification.
I wouldn’t say Rey was much of an adult as well. They’re perfect for each other. :)
 
The Han was going to happen no matter. Ford has been quite vocal about killing him. I don’t know why.
Google is your friend, my friend:
“I think it’s a fitting use of the character,” Ford said in response to a fan’s question about Solo’s death. “I’ve been arguing for Han Solo to die for about 30 years, not because I was tired of him or because he’s boring, but his sacrifice for the other characters would lend gravitas and emotional weight.”
Source
 
If he did it to rescue Luke or Leia perhaps. Didn’t feel the same to people he didn’t really know.
 
Independence Day had a Randy Quaid going from crop duster to fighter jet. Although think it implied he had prior experience back in Vietnam? Experience was 25-30 years out of date, but may be more relevant

Quaid's character was an ex-Air Force/Navy pilot who had obvious problems (and also believed that aliens had abducted him) which is why he was able to do what he did.

And Rey mentions piloting as well.

But, in the face of arguments against Rey, I have to point out that Luke sliding in to a military squadron and engaging in dogfighting is not quite the same as just flying. So, it's a stretch :D


Nope. No hook ups in the series...please! I don't Rey and Finn, or Finn and Rose, or Finn and Poe, or BB-8 and evil BB 8, Rey and Kylo, or Chewie and the Resistance doctor. Just no more! :brickwall:

IMHO, I don't think (looking at how Luke ended up, as well as Ashoka Tano) that Rey will be hooking up with anybody (and Finn already has Rose Tico.) If she gets a hook-up, it'll probably be with Poe.
 
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Star Wars movies work best when they avoid sexuality. The limited will they or won't they level of heat with Han and Leia is best, but when they go for more you get stilted faux Romeo and Juliet with Anakin and Padme.

I don't expect the powers that be to realize this, however. The skype calling nonsense already went too far in fanning the flames of shipper fetishists.
 
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