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What tropes in science fiction annoy you?

Honestly, a lot of these strike me as just standard scifi conventions rather than glitches. Can't say they ever annoyed me.

That being said, it does bug me when movie and TV aliens always seem to come from another "galaxy" rather than just another solar system in our own vast galaxy. I get that "we come from a galaxy far beyond yours" sounds more dramatic, but it is akin to implying that just because somebody doesn't come from your neighborhood they must have come from another continent! :)

Not to mention that if life had evolved on another planet in the Universe, it wouldn't be more different if it was around the next star (Proxima Centaury) or billions of light years away!

Thinking otherwise amounts to superstition.
 
I am sorry, but this has absolutely no relevance with my point whatsoever. I am neither judging the Jems or the Vorta. In war, there are spies, traitors, and all sorts of people in between Your duty as a soldier for your country is to use these when they present themselves and not stop to wonder if it's wrong or right to do that. As I said, it's obvious that if the situation were reversed and if the Jems did get Sisko's plan of attack from a traitor in Sisko's camp, they would have used it without hesitation.
Sisko's warning of the Jems was stupid and borderline suicidal. If the Jems had decided to change their plan of attack based on Sisko's revelation, it would have meant the death of all of Sisko's companions. Lucky for Sisko that the Jem's respect of the chain of command was stronger than their survival instinct. No real soldier in a real war would have been stupid enough to do what Sisko has done.

Nope.

First of all, trapped in a remote area with few troops and dangerously few supplies, any commander who thought they might have a chance at getting the enemy ground troops to switch sides and/or surrender and refused to even consider trying would be stupid.

Secondly, Sisko's warning occurred on the battlefield while the Jem'Hadar were already surrounded and under Federation sights. Offering a surrender under those conditions is something that military commanders have done for centuries (not all of them, but it's hardly unheard of) and if the Jem'Hadar tried anything, they would just get shot down anyway. The worst that happens is the Jem'Hadar get a free shot at Sisko himself, but Sisko has had direct contact with this particular enemy and understands him well enough to know he won't take advantage of that.
 
Isn't that the point of the thread?

I suppose, although the assumption seems to be that, say, human actors playing humanoid aliens is an annoying Bad Thing as opposed to just a matter of practicality. I mean, if we insist that aliens have to look entirely alien, there goes pretty much 90% of all SF movies and TV shows filmed before the advent of CGI or whatever.

I mean, would the original DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL really be a better movie if Klaatu was a sixth-demensional crystalline life-form who spoke in subtitled mathematical equations? See also any number of TOS eps which are more about presenting morality plays than delving deep into alien biology or whatever. Would "All Our Yesterdays" be more heart-breaking if Zarabeth was a sentient slime mold? Somehow I doubt it . . . :)

Depends on what kinda story you're trying to tell.
 
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I mean, would the original DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL really be a better movie if Klaatu was a sixth-demensional crystalline life-form who spoke in subtitled mathematical equations? See also any number of TOS eps which are more about presenting morality plays than delving deep into alien biology or whatever. Would "All Our Yesterdays" been more heart-breaking if Zarabeth was a sentient slime mold? Somehow I doubt it . . . :)

Depends on what drugs you'd been taking before you watched it?
 
Another trope that usually annoys me in some science-fiction works, and to a lesser extent other forms of fiction:
All humans have to be shorter than other alien races with enhanced physicality. For example, they did cast the Big Show and Dwayne Johnson as other alien races to dwarf the human main cast, but not once did they ever pull a gigantic human that is just a plain and ordinary human vs your typical stronger-than-your-average-human alien like a Klingon. Not once have I ever seen a very human Big Show vs something like a Reptilian Xindi...to show that just plain ordinary humans can play on an even field with other alien races when it comes to physicality.

Andromeda kinda had that. Hulking human Dylan Hunt seemed routinely able to go toe-to-toe with massive Nietzscheans like Tyr & Rhade. I also liked that bit in Thor where he fights that big SHIELD soldier and the SHIELD guy put up a pretty good fight. "You're big. I've fought bigger."

But good people are good looking and bad people are ugly, that is why I know I am a good person. :)
And if you don't believe me, a wise Watcher said so in ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer''

"Liar." ;)

The last Jurassic World movie, one of the good guys is a velociraptor. Extremely smart! She (it's a female) even anticipated an explosion... I had no idea she had a degree in chemistry!!!

No, just a degree in action movie cliches. We probably skipped all of the videos of Blue & Owen curled up on the couch watching Schwarzenegger flicks.

Speaking of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom-- The bad guy conveniently forgot to lock his computer workstation, so the cute kid can easily stumble on the video outlining part of their evil plan.:rolleyes:

OOoo, I remember another one, it's not specific to SFF, but it's one of my biggest. Characters keeping unnecessary secrets from each other just to manufacture drama.

Connected to this, characters spending lots of time & effort trying to conceal an unavoidable truth from a child. SEE Buffy hiding Joyce's illness from Dawn in Season 5 or EVERY SINGLE FREAKING SCENE WITH DAKOTA FANNING in War of the Worlds!!!:mad:

One thing I've noticed in particular as I've been watching Buffy.

Selectively merciful monsters, who murder everybody they see without hesitation or remorse, but somehow know to leave the main characters unconscious or take them hostage.

Like, how many times do vampires massacre the group, take their hostages, then when Buffy gets back Xander is just waking up from being conked on the head, arteries intact.

Reminds me of the scene from "Redefinition" after Darla & Drusilla have massacred all of the Wolfram & Hart lawyers except Lindsey and he's convinced that he was spared because Darla really loves him, but then he found out that they also didn't kill Lilah for some reason.

Do they get paid more to be in make up? Do make up artists get paid more than wardrobe and hair? Does a silicon face piece cost more than a costume?

Firstly, while actors probably don't get paid more to be in make-up, it is time that they're being paid for when they're not in front of the cameras, so that's an expense that they generally want to minimize. Second, I don't know if the make-up artists get paid more than hair & wardrobe but their jobs are certainly more time consuming & labor intensive. Third, make-up prosthetics often can't be used more than once, making them often more expensive than costumes that can be reused & amortized.

It'd be interesting where they went with that premise. Where I'd go is that it made it into a game of telling the best technical truths about yourself and the worst technical truths about the other person. People creatively finding ways to create misinterpretation of things that are technically true using psychology. Like everything you say is planned like a commercial.

You just described 21st century political journalism in a nutshell.

Another trope I hate are characters that are "holier than thou" This isn't scifi but I've seen it in non SF shows and I find it annoying.

Watching Blue Bloods they have "holier than thou" characters and that is pretty much the whole Reagan family besides Linda.

I have watched the show from season 1 to 8 and my impression of the Reagans is that they are more then sometimes holier than thou and are always right and have the right answers, and are pompous asses. Yet I find myself strangely liking the show I don't know why.

Blue Bloods is the only modern TV series that my grandfather watches. Everything else is Gunsmoke or something of that era. I suspect that the holier-than-thou attitudes are the main reason why he likes it so much. (That and the fact that they're all devout Catholics.)

All over the place. SG1 did it a number of times. I guess their main example would be the end of Season 8 or Continuum. In Moebius it wasn't quite some stranger telling them so much as a video of themselves, but they traveled to ancient Egypt, changed the timeline by mistake and then left a video telling themselves to put it right, flash-forward 4000 years and they go and do it. Why? Their history is their history, just because someone tells them it was different before doesn't mean they should automatically want to change it.

That's the examples I was thinking of. At least "Continuum" has General Landry calling them out on the arrogance of it before they then have to alter the timeline anyway because the alternate Earth gets invaded by Ba'al.

I get this, but then we also see men beating up people they really shouldn't be able to.

I was in a movie like that once. It was called The Last Class and there's one scene where I use a chain to garrotte a 7ft tall black dude. The scene made no sense considering I was a scrawny pipsqueak and had to get on a step-stool just to be in the same frame with the guy. You can buy it on Amazon if you like.
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Speaking of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom-- The bad guy conveniently forgot to lock his computer workstation, so the cute kid can easily stumble on the video outlining part of their evil plan.:rolleyes:
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I noticed that contrary to what was said in the previous movie, the beast couldn't camouflage like its big brother indominus rex (which btw already had raptor genes). I mean it's a good thing too because I don't know how they could have managed with a beast that can just disappear at will! in fact, the beast should have been called indomraptor raptor (since it got twice a raptor gene boost). Kinda like the homo sapiens sapiens who was an enhanced homo sapiens...our ancestor (as hard as it could be to imagine that the people who elected Trump belong to a species that deserves the qualificative sapiens, let alone twice!)
 
Not strictly scifi but ancient tombs that have been left untouched for hundreds or thousands of years and when you enter them you find convenient torches that are still lit and elaborate mechanical traps and doors that have remained functional all this time. Bonus points if the tomb was underwater because the area concerning the story will be free of water and somehow gets fresh air (for thousands of years) mind you.
 
Would be funny if digging through the dirt they find a 2 slice toaster in GOT.

Aye "What manner of sorcery is this?" looks at toaster and cord.

Thundarr the Barbarian Demon Dogs!

That would be amazing to see. Pity no one wants to do something like that.

That one I'd like to see turned on its head. It would be nice to see good guy reptilians.

The Ice Warriors on Mars are the only ones I can think of.

Here's one I didn't see yet, Not telling someone when something is wrong! Star Trek does this way too much, an easy example is First Contact when the Borg nicked the first crewman, the other crewman knew something seemed off but still just blundered around like ho hum. So if you're in the middle of speaking to someone and they suddenly go silent you just don't care they could have fallen and injured themselves or bump a stray wire. Not to mention they were just in combat with a hostile alien force! Duh! But it's been in tons of shows. Naked Time shows people reacting to their hands after they are infected and not a single one says, hey I feel strange, maybe I should report this to Medical!
 
I hate it when someone says something that's barely audible and totally incomprehensible but the others in the scene respond as if he was crystal clear.
 
I hate it when someone says something that's barely audible and totally incomprehensible but the others in the scene respond as if he was crystal clear.
Bad articulation is a general problem with TV actors that's exacerbated by bad sound mixing. Sometimes it seems like everybody in the biz needs at least some degree of speech therapy.
 
Memo to screenwriters: Do not insert that important piece of expository dialogue into a scene that also features explosions, a motorcycle chase, and people being thrown through plate glass windows if you actually want the audience to hear that line. Also: think twice before giving that crucial bit of exposition to the character speaking in a thick Venusian accent while wearing a diving helmet over his head and coughing up blood on his deathbed . ...
 
Oh yep, I forgot about the low volume. If I remember right, the rest of the audio overpowered the dialogue, and this was in theaters (And if it happens in theatres, it's futile at home). What annoys me is when movies like this either get nominated or win sound mixing & editing, which then reinforces and validates the editing process behind them, which then is more likely to get used again. ^^
 
Yeah, that drives crazy. I only use the TV's speakers, and there are times where I have to turn it up to the point that the music and sound effects are almost unbearable just so I can make out the dialogue.
Memo to screenwriters: Do not insert that important piece of expository dialogue into a scene that also features explosions, a motorcycle chase, and people being thrown through plate glass windows if you actually want the audience to hear that line. Also: think twice before giving that crucial bit of exposition to the character speaking in a thick Venusian accent while wearing a diving helmet over his head and coughing up blood on his deathbed . ...
They can always do what Game of Throne does and have random people having sex and/or walking around naked in the background.
 
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