Nicholas Meyer Discusses Discovery
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If you listen to the interview the only negative thing you'll hear is his thoughts on Star Trek Into Darkness, which he thought was gimmicky and unsatisfying. He doesn't trash Discovery at all.
You know who the hell Nicholas Meyer is?
Go eat your gravy.
What, he's kinder to a project that has his name attached than to one that doesn't credit him? Inconceivable!
Or, possibly he doesn't think much of STD.
I mean, that's possible; he is a writer.
The Midnight's Edge people are useless, obsessive idiots. But it's a hoot that some of STD's defenders are so quick to throw Meyer overboard and pretend that this is about the ME people who happen to be the messengers who are providing him a platform in this case.
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It's oh so effective and witty too.
Well I could have called him a immature halfwitted moron but inwas trying to be nice lol
Sadly, they think they are being witty
Don't do this please - flaming is against the rules, and framing it as 'here's what I wanted to say but didn't' doesn't make it OK.
They go out of their way to spin some aspects of the Star Trek world that they personally do not like in such a way to make the aspect seem negative in order to falsely disparage it.
There's nothing at all wrong with honest criticism. However, ME practices intellectual dishonesty (which is likely intentional) in the way they present a story.
There is nothing that Meyer said in that interview about which "STD Defenders" would throw Meyer overboard....and in fact nobody here has thrown Meyer overboard.
That seems to be a bit of a straw-man.
Midnight's Edge is what I call "hate circlejerk" channels. Not like political or racial hate (though they often heavily overlap on the Venn Diagrams of the type of people that go to these channels), but nerd franchise hate channels. These kind of channels have been popping up fast since Ghostbusters 2016, and have gone off the rails. Their entire existence is to pander to "true fans", you know, the kind that say Orville is true Star Trek and Discovery is not. This also got kicked into overdrive with the release of The Last Jedi and also introducing a female Doctor Who.
So now every fan base that has a large and passionate following, also seems to have a large splinter group that congregate on these hate circlejerk channels like Midnight's Edge. Most of the channels simply spew hate about The Last Jedi or whatever, but Midnight's Edge is unique. They take unsubstantiated rumors and report them as "insider knowledge." Notice the "insider knowledge" is never positive stuff. Never stuff like "they are making this cool new show" or "they are adding this great character." It's ALWAYS stuff like "Execs aren't confident in the writing team," or "actors are looking for other work because Discovery is about to be canceled."
They purposely make videos that spew negative information about, Discovery for example, because there is a passionate splinter of the fan base who hates it. Some people, sadly, get adrenaline rushes, or whatever you want to call it, by congregating with people who hate the same thing they hate. Scroll down to the comments of any Midnight's Edge video and it will be an endless stream of people hating on whatever the subject of the video is. Thus channels like Midnight's Edge is born and feeds that hunger for $$$.
So now every fan base that has a large and passionate following, also seems to have a large splinter group that congregate on these hate circlejerk channels like Midnight's Edge. Most of the channels simply spew hate about The Last Jedi or whatever, but Midnight's Edge is unique. They take unsubstantiated rumors and report them as "insider knowledge." Notice the "insider knowledge" is never positive stuff. Never stuff like "they are making this cool new show" or "they are adding this great character." It's ALWAYS stuff like "Execs aren't confident in the writing team," or "actors are looking for other work because Discovery is about to be canceled."
They purposely make videos that spew negative information about, Discovery for example, because there is a passionate splinter of the fan base who hates it. Some people, sadly, get adrenaline rushes, or whatever you want to call it, by congregating with people who hate the same thing they hate. Scroll down to the comments of any Midnight's Edge video and it will be an endless stream of people hating on whatever the subject of the video is. Thus channels like Midnight's Edge is born and feeds that hunger for $$$.
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Not in the least. "Possibly has an axe to grind" is supposition based on...really nothing at all. It equates "former staffer" with "disgruntled ex-employee," on no evidence, for purposes of undercutting Meyer because he may have said something less than flattering about STD.
So anyone who has straw-men to peddle should head on over in that direction.
Anyone familiar with Meyers opinion on the rest of the franchise, knows he doesn’t need a grudge in order to be ‘less than flattering.’
The first 15min or so of his TWOK commentary is basically him just recounting he was hired for the movie, watched the series, went back to Bennett, and declared ‘i can’t make that. It’s crap!’
It’s fine. It’s not his job to be a fan.
The first 15min or so of his TWOK commentary is basically him just recounting he was hired for the movie, watched the series, went back to Bennett, and declared ‘i can’t make that. It’s crap!’
It’s fine. It’s not his job to be a fan.
He saw some TNG and said so in interviews around the time of TUC, but I think that's it. I don't think he has any real opinion of the rest of Star Trek at all, one way or the other.
No, in point of fact it is not his job to be fan, nor any of the production crew. They need to be aware of the history and the general tone of the franchise they are working on but their familiarity or fan status is not a requirement.
I think it was around the lead up to DSC that he referred to TUC as ‘naive’, and related that - in hindsight - he was pretty uncomfortable with the mind-meld scene.
He also (according to him) flat-out turned down doing STV after being told ‘you’d be making a movie about finding God.’ Which...yeah. Unless I already had a hook in mind, I don’t think I’d want to handle that one either.
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