Spoilers The Flash - Season 5
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There, got that out of my system.
It's a play on current nostalgia for old video gaming systems!
Good episode. Rag Doll was seriously creepy. I feel like this season is doing a better job at giving all the characters something interesting to do. Barry is doing CSI work. Iris is doing reporting. Cisco got a nice little character arc. Caitlin got her search for her father and learning more about her past. And Iris and Nora are slowing making things right between them. Glad to see things getting better between those two. I really appreciated the speech that Barry gave Iris about choosing not to become future Iris. And Barry and Iris sure looked good all dressed up. And it was nice to see Barry trying to create a little romance in their lives, and not just be about work all the time. The dance was really sweet.
Something...isn't right. What kept Joe, Cecilia, and other folks who knew Iris and Barry as a child from telling Nora stories about them, especially since they are still living where they grew up?
I can buy Iris not telling those stories since those stories may remind her of being with Barry. But I'd be surprised Nora didn't hear some of those stories from others...
I can buy Iris not telling those stories since those stories may remind her of being with Barry. But I'd be surprised Nora didn't hear some of those stories from others...
Nora did say that Future Iris declared those questions off-limits. There's something we still don't know about her reasons for hiding the truth from Nora. Perhaps losing Barry in the Crisis devastated her so much that she just couldn't bear to be reminded of the past, but more likely there's some secret about Future Iris that the writers haven't revealed yet.
Another great episode of Flash this week. I'm really loving the format of this season, splitting up team flash and letting the characters shine. I think they are writing Iris a whole lot better this year than last year, but I was really impressed (And have been all season long) with Caitlin. For a character that barely got anything to do last year, Panabaker is doing a great job with the character, and I loved the scene between Caitlin and Cisco. It reminded me of the early seasons and why Caitlin and Cisco's relationship was so strong. Patton is also having a great season, and Iris's jump off the building for Barry was bad ass. I really hope there is no predestination paradox happening because I feel like that will undermine these great scenes with Iris and Nora and Iris and Barry we are getting right now. Granted, I'm sure by the finale there will be a reveal of why Future Iris did what she did, but I'm loving this Iris as a worried mother holding her daughter back and second guessing herself. It's so much different from what I felt sometimes was "Perfect Iris" last year. She feels more real and it's great character development.
Rag Doll was creepy as hell.
Rag Doll was creepy as hell.
Since the show tends to go for the happy ending in the end, I suspect that Present Day Iris will change her future and won't become the Iris that Nora knew. We will undoubtedly learn the real reason why Iris blocked Nora's powers and I am guessing that Team Flash will figure out a way to fix things so that blocking her powers is no longer necessary. Nora's Iris is from an alternate timeline that won't exist anymore. Certainly, now that Iris knows what she could become in the future, she can take steps to avoid that future.
It is possible to create a controlled building implosion that limits the damage to surrounding areas. Demolitions experts do it quite often in urban areas. They put explosive materials in critical structural supports and then allow gravity to bring the building down. Though, I agree that a skyscraper would be particularly tricky.
Now, why Ragdoll felt the need to acquire such expertise: that's another question entirely.
Edit: the tallest building brought down by controlled implosion was about 30 stories high, and it took weeks to figure out the correct placement of the explosives (though, they didn't have the original building plans to help).
Also, you're correct that environmental clean-up would, of course, be an issue even if the damage was mitigated through such methods.
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You know, I realized it was odd having Cecile tell those stories, but I didn't think it through. I'm sure you're right.
Ooh. Getting the Rogues together, eh? That could be cool. We never got a proper Rogues team, just a few Rogues here and there. I often wish that, instead of three speedster archvillains in a row, they'd devoted one season to the Rogues as the main villains.
I've had a thought, though -- Barry's opening narration this season doesn't mention Cicada specifically, just says "we made the world even more dangerous." Which makes me wonder if maybe Cicada isn't going to be a season-long villain, but will eventually give way to some other arc. It might be nice if they followed Agents of SHIELD's lead and broke the season into 2-3 connected arcs rather than dragging out one archvillain for a whole season.
I just read on reddit that the season is broken up into 3 arcs: Cicada, Caitlin's Father, and the Rogues. I'm glad they are going to try it this way. Might keep the season more fresh than last year.
What if the situation that led Iris to suppress Nora's powers turns out to be beyond Team Flash's control? Again, what if it has something to do with the future event in which A.R.G.U.S. is hunting down metahumans?
The problem is that thanks to the crossovers, the Arrowverse shows usually interrupt their main season arc for the special event. Now, to have two or three arcs, along with the crossover arc is just a bit too much to me.
Well. The Rag Doll episode was a beg meh. I thought it was weirdly out of character for Barry to say “Hey, sure there’s a maniac out there blowing up buildings, but let’s take a few minutes to dance.” What a way to lower the stakes, Bar.
I’m not sure I understood why Rag Doll blew up the building, and more importantly called in the bomb threat. I’m not sure I understood why he went after Barry. And I didn’t care enough to find out.
I also thought it was weird “Cisco, you inventor you, you have metal bits in your hand that prevents your powers.” “Gosh, whatever will we do!?”
Um... invent something that could take the metal out? Invent something that renders it useless—hey, that might even make a great way to stop the bad guy...
Oh, not going to do that? Because that would advance the story to fast? Oh. So, this was actually an episode that delays the action.
Yeah. Meh. An easily forgettable episode.
I’m not sure I understood why Rag Doll blew up the building, and more importantly called in the bomb threat. I’m not sure I understood why he went after Barry. And I didn’t care enough to find out.
I also thought it was weird “Cisco, you inventor you, you have metal bits in your hand that prevents your powers.” “Gosh, whatever will we do!?”
Um... invent something that could take the metal out? Invent something that renders it useless—hey, that might even make a great way to stop the bad guy...
Oh, not going to do that? Because that would advance the story to fast? Oh. So, this was actually an episode that delays the action.
Yeah. Meh. An easily forgettable episode.
Except earlier they comment about Dollman's targets being specific and that there was a logic to each choice.
I don't need a logical reason, it can be whatever reason Rag Doll had... but, story telling isn't about things just happening "just 'cause."
Rag Doll had a reason. It might be fucked up, it might not be reasonable to someone NOT Rag Doll, but, there's a need, a motivation.
Hell, the Joker always has reasons. Fucked up reasons, but, reasons nonetheless.
But, YMMV.
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