Daredevil season 3 Marvel/Netflix
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This was a very dark season, and I was upset that they killed off a major character I've liked since season 1. But I like how it turned out in the end, with a pretty optimistic resolution and the band back together at last. If there is a season 4, I hope it'll be more in the vein of the Mark Waid run, with a more upbeat and fun Daredevil, still informed and affected by his past traumas and tragedies but not relentlessly depressing all the time.
I never understood why they avoided that title in season 1. It's not like it's some weird or goofy name that needs special justification -- it's a fairly commonplace term for the head of an organization, especially a criminal one.
By the same token, it doesn't seem unlikely that someone with aim as incredible as Poindexter's might've been nicknamed "Bullseye" by his FBI colleagues, or even by his baseball coach in childhood. So I was surprised that that nickname was never used.
I never understood why they avoided that title in season 1. It's not like it's some weird or goofy name that needs special justification -- it's a fairly commonplace term for the head of an organization, especially a criminal one.
By the same token, it doesn't seem unlikely that someone with aim as incredible as Poindexter's might've been nicknamed "Bullseye" by his FBI colleagues, or even by his baseball coach in childhood. So I was surprised that that nickname was never used.
Episode 4 was another great one.
I love the way they did Dex's flashbacks, with just him, one or two other people, and a couple set pieces in Fisk's penthouse. Definitely a lot more visually interesting than just a standard flashbacks.
Dex's interest in the red head, I forgot her name, was a lot creepier than I expected. I had expected her to at least be an ex or something.
I totally forgot about Karen killing Wesley.
I noticed there was a pretty big lack of Matt up until that last scene, I guess Charlie Cox must have needed a break after the prison sequence in episode 3.
I love the way they did Dex's flashbacks, with just him, one or two other people, and a couple set pieces in Fisk's penthouse. Definitely a lot more visually interesting than just a standard flashbacks.
Dex's interest in the red head, I forgot her name, was a lot creepier than I expected. I had expected her to at least be an ex or something.
I totally forgot about Karen killing Wesley.
I noticed there was a pretty big lack of Matt up until that last scene, I guess Charlie Cox must have needed a break after the prison sequence in episode 3.
Don't get your hopes up for season four. Season three lost 57% of it's previous viewership. Compare to Luke Cage's loss of 59% and Iron Fist's loss of 64% and the writing is on the wall.
It's a shame and I largely blame the bland and forgettable Defenders series. They wanted to do an Avengers-style build-up-to-the-team-up, but then the team-up fell flat. Can you imagine if Avengers had been as bland as Defenders? It would have been the end of the MCU as a blockbuster franchise.
That, and perhaps a bit of over-saturation. 2018 saw four different Netflix shows drop. Even the studios limit themselves to three releases a year (and 2020 will only have 2).
It's a shame and I largely blame the bland and forgettable Defenders series. They wanted to do an Avengers-style build-up-to-the-team-up, but then the team-up fell flat. Can you imagine if Avengers had been as bland as Defenders? It would have been the end of the MCU as a blockbuster franchise.
That, and perhaps a bit of over-saturation. 2018 saw four different Netflix shows drop. Even the studios limit themselves to three releases a year (and 2020 will only have 2).
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Damn, that's really disappointing. I think saturation is the biggest problem and not just on an MCU level: Netflix is producing a lot of original shows these days.
I know The Defenders wasn't well-received (which I still find baffling considering how much I love it and I've seen it twice now, but that's for another argument), but I really doubt how that show was received actually had any major effect on the viewership for the other shows.
I know The Defenders wasn't well-received (which I still find baffling considering how much I love it and I've seen it twice now, but that's for another argument), but I really doubt how that show was received actually had any major effect on the viewership for the other shows.
Another factor was the damn near zero marketing on Netflix's part for Season 3. I'm beginning to suspect that the "Netflix is purposely sabotaging Daredevil and Jessica Jones in order to get back at Bob Iger for taking Marvel/Star Wars/Disney away from them and start a competing streaming service" conspiracy theory isn't a conspiracy theory at all. Iron Fist and Luke Cage probably couldn't have been helped by more marketing, but Netflix straight up threw Daredevil in front of the C train.
Given that it's already been announced that Melissa Rosenberg is stepping down as showrunner after Jessica Jones: Season 3 (and that that sort of announcement happening before a season starts filming usually means the departing showrunner provided closure for their era of the series in question), it looks like the writing's on the wall for her as well. And if the two biggest Marvel Netflix series are cancelled, there's no way in hell they're bringing back Punisher for a third season.
This is bullshit, but at least the show rebounded creatively. And it received narrative closure, which is more than the fans of Iron Fist and Luke Cage got.
Given that it's already been announced that Melissa Rosenberg is stepping down as showrunner after Jessica Jones: Season 3 (and that that sort of announcement happening before a season starts filming usually means the departing showrunner provided closure for their era of the series in question), it looks like the writing's on the wall for her as well. And if the two biggest Marvel Netflix series are cancelled, there's no way in hell they're bringing back Punisher for a third season.
This is bullshit, but at least the show rebounded creatively. And it received narrative closure, which is more than the fans of Iron Fist and Luke Cage got.
Season 3 has been awesome, so I'm gonna be really disappointed if DD does get canceled.
It might be different for these shows that drop full seasons at once, but I think most shows with a weekly release work on one episode at a time in order. Occasionally something will come up that they have to film episodes out of order, like ST:TNG filmed Unification Part 2 before Part 1, because Leonard Nimoy's time was limited, so they needed to film the episode with more of him in it first.
According to a relatively speculative company that's giving its best estimate.Don't get your hopes up for season four. Season three lost 57% of it's previous viewership. Compare to Luke Cage's loss of 59% and Iron Fist's loss of 64% and the writing is on the wall.
What possible reason would Netflix have to intentionally try and lose money on something they've already paid for?
If they wanna cancel it they can just cancel it, they don't need to "sabotage" it to do so...
Conspiracy theories are more fun.
This article points to oversaturation and the hit-and-miss nature of the shows.
https://screenrant.com/marvel-netflix-shows-losing-viewers/
https://screenrant.com/marvel-netflix-shows-losing-viewers/