I know I'm 3 years late to this particular party but I just re-watched the movie and so this post....
You really approached this from a scientific perspective??!!
Lol!!!
Where was the moon in Planet of the Apes?
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You really approached this from a scientific perspective??!!
Lol!!!
Yeah. The audiences who enjoyed / understood the full effect / real message of the film ever gave that more than a moment of attention, if any time at all.
Or the wisdom of smoking a cigar in a spaceship...
I've mentioned this before when POTA came up, but the film sits on a knife's edge between the more naive sci-fi of the late 50s and early 60s and the plausible science of 2001 informed by the rapidly-evolving space program. So it sort of has that mixture of about-to-become-outdated concepts and stylistic cues as well as a few overtures/hints of what was to come.
For instance, the way the bridge of the ship is dead quiet, not featuring a constant engine drone or "bridge computer" sound FX, feels "realistic". And the way Taylor records his monologue in a way that makes it sound like he's talking to a person, it wouldn't have been a leap to think of things like Dark Star or Alien where the ship's computer had an AI who could talk back. It all has that modern feel of "space is vast and you spend most of your time quietly coasting your way through it" like 2001 or Interstellar. And that scene was done without any music which also has the starkness of 2001. Then you have the landing sequence which, despite using some Jupiter 2 sound effects, kind of reminds me of part of the Stargate canyon flyby sequence from 2001. Then you have the lightshow out the windows which seems to be the same sort of techniques used in the Superman: The Movie.
No word of a lie, I rewatched the film and some of the special features on the weekend. This was prompted by having sufficient time on my hands and the fact that I bought and read the 'Planet of the Apes Visionaries' graphic novel that adapts the original Rod Serling screenplays as well as the fiftieth anniversary. In answer to your question, yes I did, though of course there are so many issues with the film scientifically that you can't really do that. But it was fun at the time. Still can't figure out what happened to the moon.
I think in the scene where Taylor is taken to Zaius after the trial, there was a cut line of dialogue where Zaius asks Taylor that very question as proof that Taylor wasn't an alien, but I believe it either wasn't filmed or was filmed but cut because it may have tipped the audience off too soon that Taylor was on Earth. I can't remember where I read that though.
SciFi 101 teaches us that everyone speaks English!!
If not, you'd have to have telepathy or a Universal Translator.
Even in Star Trek episodes where the UT is specifically mentioned, there is no delay, there is no gap in speaking (think old JAPANESE Godzilla movies) or anything that would be expected.
In order to have a story, a movie, there MUST be dialogue,
So we, the fans, MUST ignore this little fact or there could never be a Movie!!
I like how they get around this problem in Doctor Who:
It's been years since I've watched the series, so I don't know if the scene in question is in the movie, however, I have all five Malibu comics graphic novels which reprint the Marvel comics adaptations of the POTA movies, and both Planet of the Apes and Escape from the Planet of the Apes have similar scenes where characters question each other's ability to speak and understand English.
In POTA it occurs shortly after the tribunal where Dr Zaius questions Taylor and he asks him how it is he can understand the ape language.
In Escape the scene in question happens when one of the committee members asks Cornelius and Zira how it is they came to speak English.
It's possible that the writers of the comic book adaptations were working from earlier version of the scripts which have the scenes you described.
It's not uncommon; Marvel comics Star Wars adaptation had the infamous Jabba the Hutt scene, that eventually made it into the 97 re-release with the CGI Jabba replacing the actor.
So, while scenes may have been filmed and subsequently cut from the movies, they made it into the comics.
In POTA it occurs shortly after the tribunal where Dr Zaius questions Taylor and he asks him how it is he can understand the ape language.
In Escape the scene in question happens when one of the committee members asks Cornelius and Zira how it is they came to speak English.
It's possible that the writers of the comic book adaptations were working from earlier version of the scripts which have the scenes you described.
It's not uncommon; Marvel comics Star Wars adaptation had the infamous Jabba the Hutt scene, that eventually made it into the 97 re-release with the CGI Jabba replacing the actor.
So, while scenes may have been filmed and subsequently cut from the movies, they made it into the comics.
Only in Star Trek Beyond is it done realistically.
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