Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Turtletrekker]

I fully expected this to be satire until I saw that this newscame from Variety.

Scarlet Witch makes sense, especially if Vision is part of it. Both Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany have joked in the past about a potential show would be a domestic affair.

However, I'm surprised by the Loki development. Not that I didn't think Loki was actually dead, but because I didn't think Tom Hiddleston would commit to a series, even if he already did The Night Manager.

You quoted the wrong post.

Well, the article did state that these would be big motion-picture budget affairs.

And yeah, I was (and still am) a little skeptical about this, but like you, I noted that it came from a reliable source.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Oops, thanks for that.

The big-budget affair makes sense, especially since it's Disney and they'll want to create a huge lure for viewers when they already have Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, CBS All Access, etc. to chose from.

 

[kitik]

No need to be sceptical. Disney was always going to have live action Marvel shows on their service. The interesting bit is that they wanted to emphasize that these would be from Marvel Studios, and not Marvel TV. Ouch. (For the TV folks.) Very easy to see Hiddlestone agreeing to do a short little 6-episode series. Especially since presumably it'll be high quality and he'll be paid high money.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Sure, I expected MCU shows on their service, I just didn't expect major characters (sorry, Coulson, I love ya, but you were a supporting character) to crossover into television.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Because there are story arcs, characters, etc. to complain about within the MCU. It's not perfect. Why are you getting upset over the idea that someone has something to criticize the franchise about? Are we really supposed to believe that it's flawless?

I hate to break it to you, but the blowback your arguments get is not about the MCU needing to be perfect. I don't think the MCU is anywhere near perfect, and I don't think there's a single person on this board (except maybe Anwar) who does.

Your arguments get shot down so much because ninety percent of your complaints are ridiculous and/or just blatantly false.

And the fact that you very often seem to respond to posts which point out major flaws in your arguments by immediately plowing ahead to some other completely unrelated complaint that you somehow forgot to mention previously probably doesn't help, since it gives the impression that you're not actually interested in discussing the movies but instead merely determined to maintain a negative wall of noise at all times.

 

[JD]

Because there are story arcs, characters, etc. to complain about within the MCU. It's not perfect. Why are you getting upset over the idea that someone has something to criticize the franchise about? Are we really supposed to believe that it's flawless?

They are obviously not perfect, but you are picking the most ridiculous, minor, non-problems to complain about about.

Grain of salt. Loki and Scarlet Witch getting series on Disney streaming?(Variety)

If this came from anybody but Variety I would just blow it off, but Variety is probably one of the top two or three entertainment industry new sources.
I have admit, I'm actually more interested in the Scarlet Witch series than the Loki series. We've already gotten way more Loki than Scarlet Witch.
Have they ever actually Wanda Scarlet Witch in the movies? I only remember them referring to her by name.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^I do not believe so. And neither was Pietro ever called Quicksilver.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Honestly, I'm glad they've only ever referred to her as Wanda because the name "Scarlett Witch" feels a bit outdated. Quicksilver is still a good name for Pietro, though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Honestly, I'm glad they've only ever referred to her as Wanda because the name "Scarlett Witch" feels a bit outdated. Quicksilver is still a good name for Pietro, though.

Why is it out dated? Or is it just not reflective of the MCU's Wanda's powerset?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I'm not entirely sure. Maybe it's just me, but it's the connotation of "witch" that feels outdated.

 

[Relayer1]

And there was me thinking Tilda Swinton was in the frame for Loki...

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm not entirely sure. Maybe it's just me, but it's the connotation of "witch" that feels outdated.

For a fictional character that practices magic?

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'm not entirely sure. Maybe it's just me, but it's the connotation of "witch" that feels outdated.

I thought I remembered someone calling her "the witch" at one point, although certainly never Scarlet Witch.

 

[JD]

Honestly, I'm glad they've only ever referred to her as Wanda because the name "Scarlett Witch" feels a bit outdated. Quicksilver is still a good name for Pietro, though.

It also wouldn't make a ton of sense since I believe her powers have never been associated with magic in the MCU.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It also wouldn't make a ton of sense since I believe her powers have never been associated with magic in the MCU.

They weren't originally the Comics either. She was just a mutant who could manipulate probability.

 

[kirk55555]

Well, in the comics she isn't even a mutant anymore, she's literally a witch. Before they retconned Magneto out as her Dad (although watch him be revealed as still being her Dad as soon as the FOX merger happenbs), her abilities her probability based, making bad things happen to whoever she blasted, so she called them "hex bolts", which is where the witch part of her name came from. So, in the comics at least, her name makes sense both when she debuted and in the modern version.

In the MCU, her power is basically "whatever the writer needs her to do", so calling her a witch works as well as anything, and I don't see "Scarlet Witch" as being a bad superhero codename in the MCU.

 

[JD]

They weren't originally the Comics either. She was just a mutant who could manipulate probability.

I did not realize that.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Here is something that I just remembered. Marvel Studios will soon be releasing its first Visual Dictionary (Mine is on pre-order).

The one excerpt that I have read is from the entry for... The Scarlet Witch.

"She may be called Scarlet Witch, but Wanda's powers aren't derived from the occult. Whether it altered her or merely unlocked something latent inside Wanda, the Infinity Stone on Loki's scepter bestowed incredible powers of the mind. Wanda's internal neuro-electric interface allows her to conjure blasts of red telekinetic energy. She can also use this energy to create barriers, levitate and move objects; to communicate and read thoughts by telepathy; and even to manipulate the minds of others."

Bold text is mine. The speculation is that this opens the door for MCU Wanda to be mutant after all, once the FOX deal is complete.

 

[kirk55555]

Yeah, that writing means she could either just have a latent metagene or a mutation. I wonder if they're purposefully hedging their bets, or if its just a coincidence.

Also, that Visual Dictionary looks cool. I didn't know they were doing one, but I might keep my eye out for it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I did not realize that.

She along with the X-Men, Magneto and a few others were Marvel's first "generation" of Mutants. Later she learned magic and the name became more reality than poetry. These day she's not even a mutant in the comics.