Discoprise won't have TOS "cardboard sets"

[thribs]

I don’t get why they feel the need to “modernise” everything for this show. The look of the TOS era was part of its charm and you would think they would want to recreate it.
I also don’t get why they feel the the need to drastically change the ship the designs. The originals were iconic. At least Enterprise got that right with the idea of making ships that were older, but still have the same overall look.
The new Klingon D7 looks like a Wraith cruiser fron Atlantis.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don’t get why they feel the need to “modernise” everything for this show. The look of the TOS era was part of its charm and you would think they would want to recreate it.
I also don’t get why they feel the the need to drastically change the ship the designs. The originals were iconic. At least Enterprise got that right with the idea of making ships that were older, but still have the same overall look.
The new Klingon D7 looks like a Wraith cruiser fron Atlantis.

Because it's not 1964 and "charming" won't cut it.

 

[Eman1986]

I hope this doesnt sound stupid, but is it possible that the STD version of the bridge ends up looking way more high tech than say, the bridge of the USS Kelvin?

I always liked the look of that as it didn't look too farfetched from TOS tech, at least to me. Still is my favorite scene in the Kelvin verse films.

 

[thribs]

It’ll just be a redress of the Discovery bridge I’m guessing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It’ll just be a redress of the Discovery bridge I’m guessing.

Or the Shenzhou.

 

[thribs]

Aren’t they the same?

 

[Lord Garth]

I think they'll go out of their way to make a different design for the bridge. This is what I'm imagining: if you pretended Generations never happened, the Enterprise-A wasn't decommissioned, and they were making a new "TOS" movie in 2018 with William Shatner as Captain Kirk, whatever they come up with would be the perfect bridge for that!

I actually don't think I'll be too far off the mark.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I thought there were photos of a new Bridge set being constructed.

 

[thribs]

With a window for a view screen no doubt.
I don’t see how that is seen as more modern. A viewscreen that uses sensors to project an image at every angle possible around the ship seems more advanced to me.
As long as they don’t have the Star Wars holo communications. I hate that.
Another interesting thing that the first Discovery novel mentioned which never occurred to me before is that the original Enterprise never had a captain’s ready room. I wonder if the Discoprise will keep with that or create an entirely new room that was never a thing before in the original show.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

The major Phase II Enterprise sets were used for ST:TMP, with changes to instrumentation and finishing details - the bridge, engineering...

Not all the sets built or in progress retained their basic look. For example, here's the corridor being created for PHASE II, which was looking more TOS than how it ended up on TMP. And of course the Jeffries miniature model for PHASE II was scrapped in favor of the more larger and detailed one we see in the final product.

 

[Push The Button]

The sets weren’t made out of cardboard, Jesus, enough already. TOS was a very expensive series to produce for its day, about $1.4M per episode in 2018 dollars, and the initial build of the bridge, engineering, sickbay, corridors, transporter and other standing sets, plus the props, models and uniforms, adjusted accordingly, was likely in the millions.

 

[thribs]

I think he was using “cardboard” as a metaphor, saying that it looked cheap. Not literally that they were made of it.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

I think he was using “cardboard” as a metaphor, saying that it looked cheap. Not literally that they were made of it.

Since he didn’t clarify I guess we’ll never know. I wonder whether Star Trek looked cheap at the time it was first broadcast? If not, the idea that the sets look cheap *now* is so obvious that highlighting the issue in an interview raises more questions than it answers. Yet, to my mind the point about the TOS sets looking (for the sake of argument “as though they were made of”) “cardboard” doesn’t explain the *extent* of the differences between TOS and DSC. The point about them using TUC as their inspiration does. It shows that they’d rather align their visuals with a film set 30 years after the original series, rather than try to do a true update of the original visuals.

But my entire argument is undone by saying that DSC is 10 years before TOS so we don’t know what that era looked like.

 

[thribs]

But it’s a year after the Cage, and we know what that looked like.

 

[johnnybear]

Discovery set post TMP would have been awesome.

Or better at least! We wouldn't be able to nit pick the look! Well except the prune faced Klingons anyway!
JB

 

[thribs]

Or better at least! We wouldn't be able to nit pick the look! Well except the prune faced Klingons anyway!
JB

I’m sure they would have found a way to mess that up as well.

 

[johnnybear]

Indeed they would! But there is a pattern here of producers trying to erase TOS from their vision of Star Trek! The only way to do it is to ignore it and do it 'their' way!
JB

 

[dahj]

But there is a pattern here of producers trying to erase TOS from their vision of Star Trek!

 

[Groppler Zorn]

But it’s a year after the Cage, and we know what that looked like.

Agreed - and I wish DSC looked more like the cage. Sadly the powers that be don’t agree

 

[BillJ]

I think he was using “cardboard” as a metaphor, saying that it looked cheap.

Not sure how that is any better...