Not on Amazon yet. Will have to keep checking.
Well Funimation has the pre-order set up so it hopefully shouldn't be too much longer.
Also looks like there isn't any special release version, so I was right about that.
Space Battleship Yamato 2202
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Well Funimation has the pre-order set up so it hopefully shouldn't be too much longer.
Also looks like there isn't any special release version, so I was right about that.
Well amazon has part 2of 2199 up for pre-order. Went ahead and got mine done.
Does this mean they'll be making an all-in-one box set with both parts included? I'm only seeing the two separate parts there for now.
No you only get the box for both of them if you got the limited addition for part 1.
I'm watching right now the new episodes on an Italian streaming service and I got the impression that habitable planets in the Yamato universe are incredible rare. I mean, Gamilans had to go to another galaxy to find a compatible habitat, and still they had to gamilan(?)-form the Earth with planet bombs. And it seems terrestrial people didn't create colonies on planets outside the solar system. I know that this isn't Star Trek and they are more interested in showing big epic battles than space exploration, but we have any canon information on how many inhabited planets there are in the show?
The old third series (The Bolar Wars) from the early 1980s had Yamato and a few other Earth ships doing some quick deep space exploration to try to find a suitable planet to move Earth's population to withing the range of a hastily built evacuation fleet (they had something like a 15,000 light year range). They find none that is suitable that doesn't already had either a hostile population. and enslaved population that is destroyed by one enemy of another, or happens to be a cosmic space creature hiding itself under the illusion of a perfect planet. Though to be fair, they only have five ships on exploration duty, and four of them were sent out several months after Yamato started its mission alone, and the other four were destroyed at some point in the six to eight months they were out their.
In a later film, they do find a suitable planet for this type of operation some 37,000 light years away.
In a later film, they do find a suitable planet for this type of operation some 37,000 light years away.
I wonder if there will be enough interest to do a continuation for Bolar Wars or if 2202 didn't experience as much popularity to make it worth the effort. Maybe they'll go straight to redoing the old movies through Final Yamato.
Wow. So, habitable planets which are uninhabited are indeed incredible rare. No surprise that there is always some big space war out there. Limited land has always been a source of conflict.
Of course seeing as they have terraforming technology, its probably not that big a deal.
Good point. I guess the question then would be, how long does it take to terraform a planet? Yuki said that by 2199 they terraformed Mars (although it didn't really look it in episode 1) and the Gamilans certainly could with the toxic plants growing on Earth's surface after the bombing. Maybe even with the proper tech it's not all that easy and conquest of habitable worlds is still the thing to do.
Yep. Otherwise, why do they bother to terraform a planet in an another galaxy? An already inhabited planet? I know that Earth military was a no match for Gamilans, still it was a nuisance that could have been avoided if they really could choose any planet they wanted.
Terraforming a planet doesn't seem to be that hard for the Gamilas. The can deploy artificial suns to help. Earth was terraforming Mars (it has at least somewhat of an ocean in 2199 and had cities, but their was also some Interplanetary Wars between Earth and Mars prior to the Gamilas arriving in system...so Mars population centers got messed up prior to 2191). But the thing civilizations are looking for is readily available, and sustainable living spaces. Planets in the sweet spot in any given star system that has proper gravity and other requirements. Such worlds can hold populations in the billions, while the makeshift planets require a lot of resources to get going and can only hold a few million in all likelihood. It also helps if the planet doesn't have microbes that can kill your species with not ability to respond.
Beeland, found by Yamato near the edge of the galaxy is a proper planet humanity could develop to live on, but it is quite a long ways from Earth, and its inhabited by a large deadly insects (it was the former home of a sentient species who died off sometime in the last 400 years), and near it is a main gateway to the Balun System, which is the hub of the Gamilas transit network between galaxies.
It seems that there may also be local radiation issues considered by the Gamilas, more so that Earth does. Earth's radiation levels were within tolerable levels to allow for Gamilas pure breeds to still procreate (something that seem to becoming an issue on Gamilas within the next few generations). The Cosmo Reverse System can terraform a planet back to however an individual soul remembers it being, but it doesn't get rid of the issue, it just gives you more time to find a solution. Earth's worked because it wasn't the planet dying on its own, so it could be restored (with seemingly minor Planet Bomb sickness related issues and a Time Fault side effect that is allowing the fleet to be built up at a rapid rate).
Beeland, found by Yamato near the edge of the galaxy is a proper planet humanity could develop to live on, but it is quite a long ways from Earth, and its inhabited by a large deadly insects (it was the former home of a sentient species who died off sometime in the last 400 years), and near it is a main gateway to the Balun System, which is the hub of the Gamilas transit network between galaxies.
It seems that there may also be local radiation issues considered by the Gamilas, more so that Earth does. Earth's radiation levels were within tolerable levels to allow for Gamilas pure breeds to still procreate (something that seem to becoming an issue on Gamilas within the next few generations). The Cosmo Reverse System can terraform a planet back to however an individual soul remembers it being, but it doesn't get rid of the issue, it just gives you more time to find a solution. Earth's worked because it wasn't the planet dying on its own, so it could be restored (with seemingly minor Planet Bomb sickness related issues and a Time Fault side effect that is allowing the fleet to be built up at a rapid rate).
The problem with terraforming Mars IRL is the fact that the planet's magnetic field is nearly non-existent because (as far as we know), it's geologically dead. The temperature differential between the mantle and spinning iron core is too minimal as to maintain the field. Without it, the atmosphere being generated by any such technology would be quickly burned off by the sun's solar wind. And without the air pressure of a viable atmosphere holding in all the water, the oceans would quickly boil away. They would have to not only invent terraforming technology, they would also need to have tech that could restart the magnetic field. The Gamilas, with their artificial stars could likely accomplish this. The EarthGov, however, has shown no such ability to jumpstart a planetary core.
Science Channel rocks, BTW. There was a whole show about Mars today on this very subject.
Science Channel rocks, BTW. There was a whole show about Mars today on this very subject.
I'm realizing now that the Yamato universe is a dark, inhospitable and violent place, where everyone is battling for a place to live. It could not be more different than from Star Trek where you can't throw a rock without hitting at least three perfectly habitable planets without an indigenous intelligent life form and ready to be colonized.
And, hence, probably closest to what real life is going to be like for us once we become a spacefaring society.
NuBSG also fell along these lines - even more so, actually. "Space is a dark and lonely place", once said Col. Tigh, IIRC.
NuBSG also fell along these lines - even more so, actually. "Space is a dark and lonely place", once said Col. Tigh, IIRC.
Yep!
Ithekro, considering that you are the local expert on Yamato
, all those Empires, Federations etc are composed of just few dozens of planetsspread between galaxies...?
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They seem to all have some planets, but most seem to be resource gathering places, bases to defend local space, and some lesser worlds that can't hold large populations (L-class type planets)
The other problem being there mention of travel and exploration. While wave motion engines are a lot faster than warp drive, they are just jump drives. They skip large parts of space to get from point A to point B, and thus don't explore the space in between. Thus they can easily miss a lot of stuff.
Final Yamato introduced Earth to another local space power that was only about 6000 light years from Earth, but they hadn't encountered it, even when they were searching for a New Earth the year before. That world had life like Earth, but by the time Yamato got there, it was about the be destroyed by massive flooding from a mobile water planet.
In Yamato 2199 we know the Greater Gamilas Empire has conquered or otherwise incorporated several other species into their Empire. These are classified as Second Class Citizens, but they can work their way up in the social and military status, like in old Roman times. Gamilas is not above destroying one of these worlds as an example to the others.
The other problem being there mention of travel and exploration. While wave motion engines are a lot faster than warp drive, they are just jump drives. They skip large parts of space to get from point A to point B, and thus don't explore the space in between. Thus they can easily miss a lot of stuff.
Final Yamato introduced Earth to another local space power that was only about 6000 light years from Earth, but they hadn't encountered it, even when they were searching for a New Earth the year before. That world had life like Earth, but by the time Yamato got there, it was about the be destroyed by massive flooding from a mobile water planet.
In Yamato 2199 we know the Greater Gamilas Empire has conquered or otherwise incorporated several other species into their Empire. These are classified as Second Class Citizens, but they can work their way up in the social and military status, like in old Roman times. Gamilas is not above destroying one of these worlds as an example to the others.
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Thanks for your exhaustive reply.
So, there aren't many (or none) examples of colonies à la Star Trek, right? If I remember correctly, even at the time of Yamato Resurrection there aren't Earth colonies outside the solar system.
Plus in the first season they weren't exactly in a position to stop and look around what with the year time limit.
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