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Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?

Is STD a Reboot?

  • Yes

    Votes: 115 39.9%
  • No

    Votes: 173 60.1%

  • Total voters
    288
Might as well change adaptation to interpretation. Or iteration ("our iteration"), which is the term Sonequa Martin-Green has been using. Discovery is creating entirely new interpretations of characters from TOS (Sarek, Mudd, Amanda, Spock, Pike, Number One) and visuals (the Klingons, D-7, Enterprise and others).
Reimagining works better, but new or re-interpretation is acceptable, I guess this kinda means the Trek characters have become like mythical beings. Reboot to my mind implies starting over, from scratch, all previous versions are irrelevant to the current interpretation, so like the Nolan Batman films, no relation to the previous Batman films. Discovery is not saying all previous Trek is irrelevant to the show, it is trying to tie itself to both Enterprise and TOS. Remake would be of a specific work, but Discovery is a new show.
 
...all previous versions are irrelevant to the current interpretation, so like the Nolan Batman films, no relation to the previous Batman films.

But it really isn't starting over when you reboot. In almost every property, the broad strokes remain mostly unchanged, just the details are really updated.
 
The Picard avatar you sport kinda conflicts with you not liking Picard. It would be like me having an avatar of the new Sarek. :techman:
I don't have to like someone in order to appreciate their words. There is a quote from Picard in my signature, hence my avatar, currently.

No, I don't care for Picard. Nor do I find it amusing. :vulcan:
 
In the Olden Days, we had a poster here called Kirkardsiskarchway, a friend of mine on the board. I don't know if anyone remembers her but she was basically a hardcore TOS Only fan.

Yes, with that username.
 
None of it is an adaptation. Not one of the stories, main characters or their relationships has been adapted in any way shape or form. And you cannot ‘adapt’ a text into the same medium, except in very specific circumstances (ie...adapting The Iliad into a children’s book version for example...or taking a film or tv show and remaking the exact same show in another country in a different language and location. That can sometimes lead to radical differences between two versions.) none of which is what’s happening in DSC. This is further apparent due to the fact it is set before TOS and there have already been other Trek shows, none of which were ‘adaptations’ either.
If you simply make a new version of an old film or TV show, it’s called a remake. Of course, once upon a time in Hollywood, scripts were considered more of a separate entity, so you could see those early remakes as something akin to an adaptation, but that concept hasn’t really existed for a very long time, and was nebulous at best..the industry was growing.
Words have proper meanings, even in specialised industries.
Yes, all the later series have ‘based on Star Trek’ in their credits, but it’s just a formality, as for a start, those are not based on ‘Star Trek created by Gene Rodenberry’ But are in fact ‘based on Star Trek: the next generation, created by Gene Rodenberry’.
DSC has much of its DNA from those shows also.

It’s a prequel, or if you prefer, spin off, set in the same fictional universe. Not even remotely an adaptation. It’s the same media. Nothing is being adapted. You can adapt a TV show into a movie, but that’s uncommon..though it still had some usage. You can adapt both into a stage play, radio drama, book...what have you. But those are different media, and had Trek started as one of those media, then been made into a Tv show, it would be an adaptation. But screen, specifically Tv, is the source text for Trek.
Watch the original series. The Klingons are entirely different not only in looks but how they act. At the very least, it's adapting the TNG-ethos Klingons into an updated TOS landscape.
 
Watch the original series. The Klingons are entirely different not only in looks but how they act. At the very least, it's adapting the TNG-ethos Klingons into an updated TOS landscape.

It is odd that the Discovery Klingons and the TOS Klingons have never been seen outside of the 2250's/60's. One heck of a coincidence that every Klingon prior to 2250 and after 2269 are the biker variety.

I simply like the idea that in this universe, these have been and always will be the Klingons. Though I think they are throwing that out the window on the altar of "Prime".
 
Watch the original series. The Klingons are entirely different not only in looks but how they act. At the very least, it's adapting the TNG-ethos Klingons into an updated TOS landscape.

Retconning maybe. But I never saw that much of a difference beyond looks anyway.
 
Retconning maybe. But I never saw that much of a difference beyond looks anyway.

It was a major retcon, as they essentially flipped the Romulans and Klingons. Each taking on the characteristics of the other.
 
In the Olden Days, we had a poster here called Kirkardsiskarchway, a friend of mine on the board. I don't know if anyone remembers her but she was basically a hardcore TOS Only fan.

Yes, with that username.
I've been on boards with similar members. And I can't read that user name without thinking Kirkegard (for all the philosophy majors out there) ;) I mean, I know it doesn't really read that way but my brain is being weird about it.

Also, I can understand the TOS only policy, but I can at least appreciate other Star Treks, even if I don't like all of them :D
 
Unless they do something seriously drastic like killing off a character that's supposed to be alive by TOS or beyond, it's not a reboot. I regard the changing in make-up and aesthetics no differently than how Romulans suddenly had enlarged brows with zero comment.
 
Unless they do something seriously drastic like killing off a character that's supposed to be alive by TOS or beyond, it's not a reboot.

I do love how they let a homicidal, treasonous Harry Mudd off the hook without so much as a slap on the wrist, and didn't even leave a record of his actions for future starship crews who might happen upon him. :shrug:
 
I do love how they let a homicidal, treasonous Harry Mudd off the hook without so much as a slap on the wrist, and didn't even leave a record of his actions for future starship crews who might happen upon him. :shrug:
Mudd has always been sketchy. I never bought into that “lovable rogue” nonsense TOS softballed.
 
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