Same here. I struggle with the idea of visuals and tech side interfering with enjoyment of a show.
Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?
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That's some sound logic you got there.
But I suppose fallacies require a bit more effort than your usual driveby snipe.
But I suppose fallacies require a bit more effort than your usual driveby snipe.
It can't be viewed as in continuity with TOS. I never experienced the feeling while watching STD that I now understood something from TOS that had been a long mystery to me. STD does nothing to shed light on TOS, its a retcon, a reimagining-Mudd, Sarek, Amanda are all different as I'm sure Pike, Number one, and Spock will be from the characters we saw in TOS, once the series resumes.
I see it as a reimagining, but I believe folks should fit it together however they want. If they can make it fit, more power to them.
It can be viewed as in the same continuity. Just not everyone sees it that way.
I can only speak for myself, but I do not expect people to behave identically after 10 years. I certainly don't expect it in my real life and struggle with the idea of it in fiction for that reason.
I also don't rely on a "feeling" of a show to tell me if something is in the same continuity. If that were my standard, I would have abandoned Star Wars after Empire Strikes Back (and nearly did, frankly).
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Why does it need to "shed light on TOS"?
Who wants to get Michael Burnham dies at the end, explaining why Spock never mentions her or why she has zero involvement in his TOS/classic movie life?
I get the distinct impression that if that's what some people need in order to accept Discovery, then nothing the show does will satisfy them. Even if Burnham died, it could be the most dramatic thing ever but they'd find some way to say it sucks, and they'll find some way to say it either still doesn't tie into TOS, it's an insult to it, or both.
It's not worth the bother to appeal to people who'll move the goalposts anyway.
Reminds me of when some people were hoping Ahsoka Tano would die in Star Wars: The Clone Wars because she wasn't seen or mentioned in Revenge of the Sith. They ended up disappointed.
And why Sarek doesn't mention her in "Sarek". Even though she has a piece of his katra. Heck, since she has melded with Sarek, it would seem like she would be ever present in his mind, in some form. Spock never melded with Sarek, per "Unification".
Just an issue of cramming a new interpretation into a long-running story. It is much like the Klingons. I don't have an issue with the idea of them being more alien, I have an issue with them attempting to overwrite the other version and saying it is all the same. When it clearly isn't.
From a business perspective, I absolutely understand CBS wanting this to be the "Prime" timeline. From a personal perspective, being a long time fan, it screams reboot to me.
If that happens, I'm done.
Depends on how she would die? Saving the Federation? A Veridian III? Or her crew? I'd be okay with it. Nothing wrong with dying heroically.
I consider it a remake, with new elements that "break" existing "canon."
That's fantastic, and much needed. I just wish I actually liked the show.
That's fantastic, and much needed. I just wish I actually liked the show.
Except that it's so expected or the most "obvious" thing to do (to consolidate with continuity) that it would cheapen the whole experience for me.
I think there are a lot of problems with it, but, if you can set aside the "this is eight years before TOS" stuff, I think there is some good things in there.
Setting outside of the Prime continuity lets me just enjoy it on a sci-fi and dramatic level. I hope they don't do stupid things to satisfy continuity, but I can see your apprehension.
Besides, the great heroic sacrifice thing just feels a little uninspired at this point.