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those damn hippies

Since there is little evidence to assume the Romulans did poison the planet to stop it becoming a beacon to the depressed minions of the Federation, I'd say it was just the typical result of finding what you want but it not being exactly how you wanted it when you got there! A bit like the saying of grass is always greener on the other side! :techman:
JB
I totally agree. But taking that thought one step further.......
What did the hippies want? Natural, unspoilt wilderness free from Federation civillisation and technology. Free from sanistised water, food and air.
Maybe Eden was too poisionous to be colonised and civilised , maybe too poisonous for even Fed tech to make it livable.
And so someone named it "Eden" - unspoit, wild etc etc. The hippies with all their buzzwords (and not a lot of independent THOUGHT) seemed just the sort to buy into the mythology around the name, without asking WHY it wasn't civillsed.
Stupidly following an ideal without examining why, has created way too many disasters in the past - Hitler, McCarthy, Witchcraft hysteria etc etc. This story is just one more example.
 
Yea there must be a confluence of energies on the planet that creates a euphoria or ecstacy or temporal stasis or at least that's the myth.
 
I totally agree. But taking that thought one step further.......
What did the hippies want? Natural, unspoilt wilderness free from Federation civillisation and technology. Free from sanistised water, food and air.
Maybe Eden was too poisionous to be colonised and civilised , maybe too poisonous for even Fed tech to make it livable.
And so someone named it "Eden" - unspoit, wild etc etc. The hippies with all their buzzwords (and not a lot of independent THOUGHT) seemed just the sort to buy into the mythology around the name, without asking WHY it wasn't civillsed.
Stupidly following an ideal without examining why, has created way too many disasters in the past - Hitler, McCarthy, Witchcraft hysteria etc etc. This story is just one more example.

SULU: Captain, we're now leaving the Neutral Zone. Bearing into Romulan space!
KIRK: Any patrols?
SPOCK: Negative.
KIRK: There will be soon. Doctor Sevrin. You are violating Romulan space and endangering the peace of the galaxy.

The Hippies didn't have to wonder why Eden wasn't civilized by Earth Humans. Fear of the Romulans was the obvious reason. And since the Hippies seemed to count on luck or destiny to protect them from the Romulans, I guess they just assumed that luck or fate prevented the Romulans from colonizing and civilizing the planet.

Because you're forgetting that Eden was in space infested with Romulans, which made going there too risky. It wasn't in the neutral zone, that it was an act of war to enter, but beyond the neutral zone in Romulan space that it was even more an act of war to enter. Fate really protected the Enterprise in that episode.

Of course the planet itself was not infested with Romulans. They wouldn't like the acids any more than most humanoids would, and the average surface temperature was probably far too cold for descendants of Vulcans to enjoy. But since most people in the Federation were glad to let sleeping Romulans lie nobody on the Federation side of the border except a few warmongers and the Hippies wanted to colonize Eden.
 
The Romulans were all down for their naps.

I like the idea of Eden being poisoned by Romulans (or some other agency). Such a lush planet being contaminated could only have happened by artificial means.
 
The lush growth of the planet doesn't seem affected by the toxicity - it may well be naturally occurring defences
 
The lush growth PRODUCES the toxicity.

Toxic plants can be lush.

An entire planet of toxic, acidic vegetation is... unique
 
Ah, I see your point now - thanks for taking the time to spell that out for me.

TBH I'm still not entirely convinced that the Romulan connection is that much of a stretch, since the planet is inside Romulan space (or at least it is by the time of the 2260s). However, at the end of the day this is just a theory without any onscreen evidence so I'm happy to trade it in for a better one :techman:

Like the Soviets poisoning the Afghan wells. I think it's a solid theory.
 
I love "The Way to Eden" for all the wrong reasons... which are probably the right reasons. :evil:

And, no, I don't think the writers got hippies at all. That's what makes it so great. ;) But Spock was One. And one is the beginning. But seriously, they could've had Irina and Adam be stronger foils for Chekov and Spock respectively. The dynamics were there and they could've brought it out more. Have them really challenge Chekov and Spock about their values and beliefs, to put them in a sharper conflict with Kirk, who's supposed to be The Man.
 
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"Captain, the space hippies are here, and they're pretty ugly."

Giotto was the security commander during season one, David Garrovick was in the second season and 'dopey Dickerson' was in the third season! so I guess Dickerson was to blame for those hippies running riot on the ship so I'd bet he was sitting in his cabin blowing his finger and making his bowler hat lift off his head! :lol::rofl::guffaw::rommie:
JB
 
Giotto was the security commander during season one, David Garrovick was in the second season and 'dopey Dickerson' was in the third season! so I guess Dickerson was to blame for those hippies running riot on the ship so I'd bet he was sitting in his cabin blowing his finger and making his bowler hat lift off his head! :lol::rofl::guffaw::rommie:
JB

:guffaw: Is this a UK joke? Explain!! :beer::lol:
 
:guffaw: Is this a UK joke? Explain!! :beer::lol:

Not so much a UK joke as such, Phase, but somehow he reminds me of Stan Laurel with his dopey looks! Towed in A Hole made in 1932 has Stan getting a black eye off of Ollie for aggravating him while they are repairing a boat and Ollie locks Stan in the cabin and chains him to the mast! To keep himself amused he blows air on his thumb which makes his bowler rise off his head and I keep thinking Dickerson could have been doing this in his quarters as well! I couldn't believe that this guy was the head of security in The Savage Curtain! :techman:
JB
 
Not so much a UK joke as such, Phase, but somehow he reminds me of Stan Laurel with his dopey looks! Towed in A Hole made in 1932 has Stan getting a black eye off of Ollie for aggravating him while they are repairing a boat and Ollie locks Stan in the cabin and chains him to the mast! To keep himself amused he blows air on his thumb which makes his bowler rise off his head and I keep thinking Dickerson could have been doing this in his quarters as well! I couldn't believe that this guy was the head of security in The Savage Curtain! :techman:
JB

:lol:
 
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