The Titans episode is the Backdoor Pilot for Doom Patrol the Series, and I hate it when recastings happen or characters get dropped between a Backdoor Pilot and a Series Premiere because it ends up making the former pointless.
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The Titans episode is the Backdoor Pilot for Doom Patrol the Series, and I hate it when recastings happen or characters get dropped between a Backdoor Pilot and a Series Premiere because it ends up making the former pointless.
That's a odd statement... why would recasting make it pointless?
Especially when they're presumably just recasting the suit performer, whose face wouldn't be seen anyway. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they redubbed the Titans episode with Brendan Fraser's voice now.
But in general, of course it doesn't make it pointless. A pilot, backdoor or otherwise, is a trial run, an experiment to see if a show works. So naturally there are going to be ideas, characters, or casting choices that don't work out as well as hoped and need to be redone for the series proper. Heck, Star Trek recast all but one of its pilot cast members, and it turned out okay.
That's a odd statement... why would recasting make it pointless?
Because a Backdoor Pilot is meant to serve as the first episode of a series even if it's not always presented as such directly, and recasting characters or dropping characters entirely between a Backdoor Pilot and the first Season Premiere of a series takes an episode that should have been integral - the Backdoor Pilot - and makes it superfluous and unimportant.
Again, how?
Is Iron Man superfluous because Don Cheadle replaced Terrence Howard later on? Is the pilot episode of Arrow unimportant because a different actress played Sara and not Caity Lotz? Are the first two seasons of Supergirl now null and void because Erica Durance replaced Laura Benanti in the third, just to name a few examples...
As long as the characters, regardless of actors, and/or the story is the same, I don't see where it's a problem. They made some pretty massive changes between the pilot of Babylon 5 and the first regular episode, and that was still a part of the show. Hell, Star Trek even found a way to work The Cage into the regular series.
he can also read "Lord of the Rings" and get pretty much the same.
What the frak does that have to do with casting?
It illustrates my point about how recasting a role - or dropping a role entirely - between a Backdoor Pilot (or regular Pilot) and a Season Premiere renders the former pointless.
No, it doesn't. Casting has nothing to do with whether one can "get the complete story."
The recastings that happened between The Gathering and Midnight on the Firing Line did impact the story of Babylon 5, because they resulted in JMS dramatically changing that story, thus rendering what happens in The Gathering obsolete save for some oblique references that are only important insofar as they explain certain characters' backstories.
Those were character changes, not, what has been under discussion, cast changes, and the changes between the B5 pilot and series went beyond character line-up and cast. Yet again: cast changes between pilot and series do not necessitate character changes, and nor do they render pilots pointless. JMS certainly didn't consider The Gathering to be pointless, or he wouldn't have done more work on it, none of which reversed the differences between pilot and series under discussion, to make the special edition of it that was shown when B5 moved to TNT.
I disagree.
DC Universe starts September 15, Titans premieres October 12
The episodes drop weekly so I'm waiting until they're all available and then I'll binge watch them and cancel the service. I did that with Star Trek Discovery. I just can't afford it monthly.
The episodes drop weekly so I'm waiting until they're all available and then I'll binge watch them and cancel the service. I did that with Star Trek Discovery. I just can't afford it monthly.
But no one was recast. Characters were changed, some were dropped, others added. But that’s not recasting.
Na’Toth, G’Kar assistant, she was recast during the series, but it was the same character and didn’t render her appearances obsolete.