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New animated show announced... Star Wars: Resistance

You and me both.

That's one thing that bugs me about the Resistance trailer, in fact -- the cast seems overwhelmingly male. I only spotted one or at most two female characters. That's not encouraging. The female characters in Rebels were the only ones I really liked.
Leia is supposed to be in it.

I am hoping that there is a lot more to the show, I feel like this is mostly from scenes in the pilot. This is how the characters end up joining the Resistance.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't be reading too much of substance into a "first look" trailer. It's only really a teaser meant to say "hey, this is a thing that exists! And it has BB-8!" I'm sure we'll get a more substantial story trailer closer to release.
 
I seem to recall people hating on the art style of both versions of the Clones Wars as well as Rebels before they started and for each show's first six or so episodes. So hating on Resistance's art style is not a new thing. Its a usual thing.
 
I seem to recall people hating on the art style of both versions of the Clones Wars as well as Rebels before they started and for each show's first six or so episodes. So hating on Resistance's art style is not a new thing. Its a usual thing.
Except the current art style is nothing like the old art styles, which were much more like each other, so this is actually a new thing.
 
Except the current art style is nothing like the old art styles, which were much more like each other, so this is actually a new thing.
No, the art style of Rebels was very distinct from Clone Wars. CW was very much based (early on at least) on Genndy Tartakovsky's very angular, dynamic character design with a very stark, high contrast aesthetic, though both of those were softened over time to more the look a lot closer to that of the live action movies.
SWR on the other hand used Disney's more traditional character design aesthetic, with the rounded faces and slightly oversized eyes. Plus of course a much softer, pastel colour pallet inspired by McQuarrie's artwork.

What makes TCW & SWR relatively similar isn't the style, it's the rendering method. The later two shows went with fairly standard texture mapping and soft shading while Resistance is cell shaded with very bright, over-saturated colours and anime inspired lighting effects.
 
No, the art style of Rebels was very distinct from Clone Wars. CW was very much based (early on at least) on Genndy Tartakovsky's very angular, dynamic character design with a very stark, high contrast aesthetic, though both of those were softened over time to more the look a lot closer to that of the live action movies.
SWR on the other hand used Disney's more traditional character design aesthetic, with the rounded faces and slightly oversized eyes. Plus of course a much softer, pastel colour pallet inspired by McQuarrie's artwork.

What makes TCW & SWR relatively similar isn't the style, it's the rendering method. The later two shows went with fairly standard texture mapping and soft shading while Resistance is cell shaded with very bright, over-saturated colours and anime inspired lighting effects.
I didn't say REB and TCW didn't have distinct styles, or even very distinct styles, so....

For reference, here's what I said, but with the implicit text inserted explicitly in brackets:

Except the current art style is nothing like the old art styles, which were much more like each other [than the new style, as it appears to be based on one trailer], so this is actually a new thing.​
 
I think The Clone Wars' design style was also meant to emulate the Gerry Anderson Supermarionation shows, hence the "carved" look of the characters' hair and their somewhat stiff movements in early episodes.
 
It's odd that there is no value on consistency between the series - the production team would rather try out new art styles. That makes sense, I guess. Once you are locked into a style design with guidelines there's not much course correction. Remember how much complaining there was about Rebels' lightsabers being too thin?

Resistance looks really jarring because we aren't used to Star Wars looking like that. It's gonna take a really engaging story to pull us in.
 
It's odd that there is no value on consistency between the series - the production team would rather try out new art styles.

It's no odder than different comic book artists drawing the same characters in different ways. Modern comics and animation generally encourage artists to develop their own personalized styles rather than forcing them to conform to a single house style. That's a good thing. It means they're encouraging creativity rather than corporate conformity. That's the one thing that comforts me about the Disney corporate behemoth monopolistically swallowing up half the entertainment industry -- the fact that they at least still seem to respect individual creativity and innovation, and generally do produce genuinely good work, at least in the franchises I follow.


Resistance looks really jarring because we aren't used to Star Wars looking like that. It's gonna take a really engaging story to pull us in.

No, that's not the issue for me. I'm just not a fan of cel-shaded 3D animation, regardless of what franchise it's in. I grew up with hand-drawn 2D animation which was done at frame rates of 8-12 frames per second. So seeing something that looks more or less like 2D animation but has the higher frame rate and more 3D movement of computer animation creates an uncanny-valley effect, as someone mentioned above. It's not that I can't enjoy a show that's made with cel-shaded animation -- I found Iron Man: Armored Adventures and TRON: Uprising decent enough -- it's just not my preferred animation style, and it never will be. Genuine 2D will always be my preferred style, because it's what I grew up with.

Heck, I hated Rebels' bouncy character animation, but I was still able to enjoy the show for its stories. I just would've enjoyed it more if I'd liked the animation better.
 
I used to love a lot of Dark Horse Comics work on Star Wars, although a couple of the older titles had weird art.

Recently in the newer Marvel ones they adopted a very Saga-like art style for some titles, and I don't feel it works:

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I feel like it does not really fit too well with the famous used-future aesthetics of Star Wars; its a bit clean maybe, or maybe the soft watercolour type look, or the way technology is slowly becoming more "post-cyberpunk" and glowing when Star Wars tended toward retro futurism.

I kinda get the same feeling from the brief Resistence trailer; things look too clean or something:

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I am struggling to articulate what feels off with it, but maybe its that the angular 70s ships have sometimes been replaced by lots of organic curves (i.e. the fleet in the Leia comic), and junker ships that moved like WW2 planes now move like Iron Man or an F22 Raptor.

Since establishing the rules of a franchise are important so as not to have plot devices creep in, perhaps the more comic book stuff is making me uneasy that they don't start employing increasing amounts of HandWavium-8.

Visuals are pretty important to Star Wars, probably sharing that distinction equally with music. So I dunno about this, why not just roll with your own style? I know its dated to think high tech societies would build clean industrial shapes, but Star Wars already was deliberately and carefully anachronistic, with WW2 guns serving as blasters.
 
Too clean? That yellow, X-Wing'ish looking ship is beat to hell and the other one is supposed to be a (presumably better funded) racing ship. So of course it looks clean by contrast.

Also, from a thematic standpoint it does make sense when viewed in the context of the saga as a whole. The Republic is back, the Empire is (mostly) gone so it would seem appropriate to see some of the colour and clean lines of the prequel era start to make a return to the galaxy. Also, using an anime inspired design seems like a good fit considering how most of the old pre-Clone Wars Republic ships had a Flash Gordon vibe to them.
 
The fighters almost have a 1930s racer vibe (which is intentional), or they are based on craft from the old West End Games Roleplaying Game and the X-wing series computer games. A lot of those were fancy speedster looking craft that today would look like retro-futurism and less like what they actually had in World War II, less than a decade later. As for Leia's fleet, look again at the backround ships at the end of The Empire Strikes Back. and look at the old Star Wars Marvel comics (which pre-dated the Dark Hourse stuff by about a decade). That's were they are pulling a lot of this stuff from in today's comics. Mind you I like the Dark Horse stuff better.
 
Visuals are pretty important to Star Wars, probably sharing that distinction equally with music. So I dunno about this, why not just roll with your own style? I know its dated to think high tech societies would build clean industrial shapes, but Star Wars already was deliberately and carefully anachronistic, with WW2 guns serving as blasters.
But Star wars has also taken on its own flavor, as it were, especially with the PT and the very clean and stately designs slowly giving way to the more industrial designs. So, it makes as much sense for Star Wars to have some nods and references to cleaner ships as well.
 
I loved the look of the animation and look forward to the new series. It is a nice departure from the CG animation that has been the standard since the TCW series.
 
Looks like a lot of fun. Neeko already looks like he has potential to become my favorite.
Did they not talk about the girl in blue in the video?
 
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