"Counterclock Incident" was aired on October 12, 1974. All of the bridge drawings from the SFTM are dated no more recently than September 1974. So, CI couldn't have possibly influenced anything he worked on.
--Alex
Franz Joseph's Star Trek
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"Counterclock Incident" was aired on October 12, 1974. All of the bridge drawings from the SFTM are dated no more recently than September 1974. So, CI couldn't have possibly influenced anything he worked on.
--Alex
Yes I also noticed the differences in the layout between the TAS bridge and Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual bridge regarding the placement of the second exit. I really like how the TAS took out the engineering sub-systems monitor station to make room for the second exit. I think it makes the bridge look more roomier and bigger.
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I glanced through your blueprints on Cygnus, and had to call out the USS Bucephalus. You've nicely incorporated the Leif Ericson into the design! That was one of the favorite models of my youth, especially with the engines lit up. Though the model itself is long gone, I recently found the instructions, including the 2-page story of the young midshipman. I'm really sorry that line didn't continue. (The glow-in-the-dark UFO version of a few years later was fun but a definite step down...) Still have the Flexi-disc of space sounds, too!
I've also noted the URL pointing to your book, for future purchase.
I prefer this, too. Having those two side panels on either side of the viewer is so iconic that replacing one with a door would be distracting.
--Alex
You can preserve the esthetics and keep the subsystem monitor by making one of the side panels into a hidden door. Make it a pop-out piece that snaps into place. Now you have the TOS bridge as seen on TV, plus the second exit that lets you get to the staircase or service bridge stations from behind. That is my head canon.
As to why this pop-out door was not used in "Space Seed" or "Day of the Dove" when they were going to suffocate, I point you to the scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit when the guy says "You mean you could have gotten out of those handcuffs at any time?" And Rogers says, "Not at any time. Just when it was funny."
The show was a drama, and no one should ever question Kirk's flair for the dramatic.
If there's any place where a secondary exit should go, it's the console to the left of Spock's - that thing disappears all the time!
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And so it was in Mister Scott's Guide to the Enterprise! Always made sense to me.
--Alex
They are pretty spacious!
http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x06/thesurvivor_047.JPG
However, all the sets seemed somewhat larger in that episode - here's an overhead view of Sickbay for example
http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x06/thesurvivor_031.JPG
P.S.
I just noticed that the crew cabin features those square "windows" that were originally built into the set but covered up after the first 6 episodes. Fantastic!
Yeah I understand. Then you would want the Franz Joseph TOS bridge.But no engineering subsystems station!!!
Now we know why Starship Exeter only had a partial bridge set. It's Canon!
I've always loved the TM and the BoGP sets. In my bookcase where my Trek background books are, they are at the front of the queue.
For essentially inventing Trek starship kitbashing, he has left a legacy in Trek fandom. Imagine how many less posts Forbin would have made in the forums without the Technical Manual!
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FJ's bridge has kick out panels in the turbo lift alcove. If he left the Engineering sub system station intact, you could still get off the bridge in an emergency. But gaining access to the toilet located to the right of the main viewer would constitute a real 'emergency', and kicking out a f#%king wall to take a leak might be distracting to your fellow crew mates.
FJ's bridge has kick out panels in the turbo lift alcove. If he left the Engineering sub system station intact, you could still get off the bridge in an emergency. But gaining access to the toilet located to the right of the main viewer would constitute a real 'emergency', and kicking out a f#%king wall to take a leak might be distracting to your fellow crew mates.
Probably an emergency toilet, in case access to the rest of the ship is cut off. During regular operations, no one wants to hear a deuce being dropped by the main viewer.
It occurs to me that IF the FJSTM ships were canon vessels it would make sense to have engineering in the saucer as those ships do not have secondary hulls. The warp core could be vertical, and located in the neck.
The two round pods on the floor with the dilithium crystal between them, called the "Impulse Syncrotron," could be the top of the warp core, like the Impulse Deflection Crystal would be on the refit. Then, the blue structure that takes its place in TAS would be an expansion of that system, moving towards the Impulse deflection crystal, and the Dreadnought would connect its upper nacelle to the warp core through that structure.
The season 1 engine room could be the one near the horizontal part of the warp core, sort of like Drexler's diagrams, hence no Impulse Syncrotron on the floor. And, it kind of looks like Warp Engineering from the FASA blueprints.
I've always been an "Engineering is in the Secondary Hull" guy, but this kind of convinces me to consider it the other way.
The two round pods on the floor with the dilithium crystal between them, called the "Impulse Syncrotron," could be the top of the warp core, like the Impulse Deflection Crystal would be on the refit. Then, the blue structure that takes its place in TAS would be an expansion of that system, moving towards the Impulse deflection crystal, and the Dreadnought would connect its upper nacelle to the warp core through that structure.
The season 1 engine room could be the one near the horizontal part of the warp core, sort of like Drexler's diagrams, hence no Impulse Syncrotron on the floor. And, it kind of looks like Warp Engineering from the FASA blueprints.
I've always been an "Engineering is in the Secondary Hull" guy, but this kind of convinces me to consider it the other way.
