You're teetering dangerously close to Jar territory....
The aesthetic of the post-Nemesis Trek Universe
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It starts in December so it’s still this year.You're teetering dangerously close to Jar territory....
After seeing someone's video scenario of where new Trek is heading (sorry don't have link handy), including certain corporate influences, I'm getting the impression that the future is going to be a sort of smushing together of the two timelines, to get fans just to stop caring which is in what timeline, and just watch this week's "exciting adventure". Worldbuilding, schmurldbuilding. This is what I expect from the Picard show. Maybe Patrick can exert an influence?
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We've had an attitude out there for a long time that canon and continuity are so obsessively fannish a concern that the cooler thing is to show how much you don't care about it. "Reinventing", within reason, is necessary. In excess, it means doing away with essentials that define a show just because you can.
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It's one person's video, but he'd done his homework. I'll post the link if I come across it again. It seems a lot of it may depend on whether CBS's Les Moonves is ousted somehow. I remember Dave Letterman's on air feud with Moonves, so I don't underestimate his capacity for damage...
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I'm also going by general trends, and the attitudes of non fans toward ST, and Moonves is a sort of anti-fan... I think what we should be most afraid of is that the fictional reality of Trek becomes fluid and impossible to nail down. There just won't be timelines, if that happens. It won't matter to people if new events contradict old events, because all those old shows, well they're just old.
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We've had an attitude out there for a long time that canon and continuity are so obsessively fannish a concern that the cooler thing is to show how much you don't care about it. "Reinventing", within reason, is necessary. In excess, it means doing away with essentials that define a show just because you can.
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It's one person's video, but he'd done his homework. I'll post the link if I come across it again. It seems a lot of it may depend on whether CBS's Les Moonves is ousted somehow. I remember Dave Letterman's on air feud with Moonves, so I don't underestimate his capacity for damage...
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I'm also going by general trends, and the attitudes of non fans toward ST, and Moonves is a sort of anti-fan... I think what we should be most afraid of is that the fictional reality of Trek becomes fluid and impossible to nail down. There just won't be timelines, if that happens. It won't matter to people if new events contradict old events, because all those old shows, well they're just old.
Eaves' Discovery work is his post-Nemesis work. The Shenzhou was based on a NEM-era design he did for a fan group years before:
He'll probably take it up a notch since it'll be the end of 24th Century, going into the 25th.
A lot of Eaves' designs always felt throwback to me. I associate 24th Century designs with more aquatic sea life designs. The Enterprise-D, Voyager, the Prometheus, etc. But that's all Rick Sternbach's work. Sternbach is more aerodynamic while Eaves goes for the harder lines, which I associate as "older".
I blame this on cars. When I was a little kid, they all looked like boxes. Then came the 1986 Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable, and (much like the Galaxy Class) everything changed. Cars became more aerodynamic. More "modern" looking... Then that got sort-of thrown out the window since harder lines began to be re-introduced in 2000 and cars started to become more geometric-looking from about 2010 on.
So maybe harder lines and super-geometric is the future of starships in the Picard Series.
I hope they don't have the "All Good Things" Uniforms.
I'm really ready for season 3 of Nailed It. That's another show that has nothing to do with Trek that one can watch if they want to.
That seems unlikely.
True. It would make too much sense.
Whatever Uniforms they have - they will likely be textured or at least have lines on them - I listened to an interesting podcast with a costume designer the other day and they were discussing that the reason that texturing is so popular is that things look visually uninteresting in HD and 4K without it especially with the block colouring that Star Trek Universities tend to have.
True but since STO isn’t canon, they could use them earlier without causing issues.
I think it would be really cool if retired old 2399 Picard wore his old Next Gen captain's jacket. That thing was so cool.
Countdown's Ambassador Picard wore a cool reverse-colours (black with read shoulders) long coat which was probably meant to be leather. He wore it on Vulcan too, poor guy must have been baking.
Countdown's Ambassador Picard wore a cool reverse-colours (black with read shoulders) long coat which was probably meant to be leather. He wore it on Vulcan too, poor guy must have been baking.
I really hope they go with softer, more organic shapes. Eavesian jagged hard lines is already used in DSC, softer shapes could suggest advancement and would also look less militaristic.
They could do worse than tap the STO guys.
Depends. Some of the early designs are among the ugliest starships ever designed. Many of the latter ones are decent though, albeit often highly derivative.
Well the Enterprise E is John Eaves baby.. Soo..
He also done work on the Early STO designs that are floating around. But yes his stuff is abit linear.. Maybe dust off Rick or Alex to get some new designs in.. Just not that guy from Beyond.. Ugh..JJ Enterprise A looks like junk.
I expect a uniform change, bridges looking more like Macs than windows.. more glass.
Hope they have some of the younger people be captains like Ezri and Captian Kim.
Kirk said Never let them promote him out of the captains chair, so
He also done work on the Early STO designs that are floating around. But yes his stuff is abit linear.. Maybe dust off Rick or Alex to get some new designs in.. Just not that guy from Beyond.. Ugh..JJ Enterprise A looks like junk.
I expect a uniform change, bridges looking more like Macs than windows.. more glass.
Hope they have some of the younger people be captains like Ezri and Captian Kim.
Kirk said Never let them promote him out of the captains chair, so
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