Mel Brooks is still alive????
Star Trek 4 Hits A Snag
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And as sharp as ever!
https://hiddenremote.com/2018/05/07/spaceballs-2-schwartz-awakens-title-teased-mel-brooks/
And he is even willing to do Space Balls 2 if MGM finances it
P.S. And I hope you were going for sarcasm
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If they get into a real bind, they can take TVH, re-do the effects, re-edit it with a different beginning and reason for them having a BoP, edit in 2019 San Francisco instead of 1986, edit out McCoy talking to Spock about his death, so that it doesn't conflict with Into Darkness, cut out the trial, etc, etc, and have them aboard the Kelvin 1701-A at the end, to see what she's got. And simply call it Star Trek 4.
There is so much they could do. All it takes is a little imagination.
They could even have Miley Cyrus as the new rocker on the bus....
There is so much they could do. All it takes is a little imagination.
They could even have Miley Cyrus as the new rocker on the bus....
Some years back Karl Urban did an interview and made a small comment about Chris Pine in passing. It was something to the effect of Pine not wanting to be associated with Star Trek and that Urban embraces Star Trek but Pine doesn't.
I'm trying to find the exact quote, but if this is true it gives you a sense of what Pine thinks of Trek.
I'm trying to find the exact quote, but if this is true it gives you a sense of what Pine thinks of Trek.
That wouldn't surprise me. Urban has gone on record to say he likes TMP best. Now that's a sign of a true hardcore Trek fan if there ever was one.
He likes it, I'm sure, n getting paid. Maybe not a big fan like Urban, but thought Pine/Quinto both signed contracts for any future ST 4 (14)? Seems like they did, Studio wants Pine to take less coin, he said 'oh he'll no' n we are where we are at. He wants the agreed to $$, not taking reduced rate (if that did happen). Not sure if Hemsworth signed one or agreed to a nmbr that is also being reduced?
In all seriousness, TMZ is a pretty reliable source.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05...tion-picture-and-thinks-you-should-too?page=2
Make of that what you will. I don't think the guy hates Trek or anything, but reading this interview years ago I thought it odd that Urban mentioned this.
I don't think you'll ever see Pine at a Star Trek convention.
Make of that what you will. I don't think the guy hates Trek or anything, but reading this interview years ago I thought it odd that Urban mentioned this.
I don't think you'll ever see Pine at a Star Trek convention.
Urban is always praised for essentially doing an impersonation of DeForest, which is fine if you are expecting them to do that, but then it begs the question how the actors can make their version 'special' and thus noticeably unique and different ...
The ones who truly made an alternative version of the characters are Quinto, Saldana and Pine who are reboot Spock, Uhura and Kirk to the point I honestly think their version could inform or inspire new versions of the characters. Uhura in particular is upgraded from her tos counterpart.. significantly; and that's because of what the writers AND the actress did with the character. From what I saw, she has already influenced what kind of portrayal people expect for Nyota Uhura from now..
Quinto pretty much made his Spock an upgraded, more contemporary, version of the character too. Like I said before, I bet that discovery will basically show a Spock that will be more similar to his than Nimoy's, in spite of being the past self of the latter.
And Pine...personally, he made his Kirk more likeable than Shatner. Less Mary sue. More real. He's flawed but nice in a non pretentious way. I can connect to this Kirk and get interested about his dynamics, while the original was too much a given as the protagonist character the narrative had to revolve around at any cost. He channels Shatner at times but in a healthy, almost non-deliberate homage to he original. But for the rest, he makes the character his own.
I think we all have different definitions of what it meant for the cast to nail their characters and making them their own product.
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Very true because for me Urban, Pine and Quinto nailed the K,S,M characters, however the other parts could be done by any competent actor, especially Uhura. If they replaced Saldana it would be no great loss to me, (however she nails the part of Gamora in the Galaxy movies). Whenever I picture Uhura I see a Lupita Nyongo, at least Pegg tries to make a Scottish character sound Scottish and Yelchin attempts to sound Russian, Saldana's Uhura could be any female from the in universe United States. I give TOS and TNG a pass when it comes to black African characters but not anymore.
As my Father, a VERY honest car saleman, told me long ago - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. True when deciding what value in a car, when dating/marrying, and what your favorite character holds for you.
IMO, Urban nailed McCoy. Nothing on screen, novels, or otherwise notes the Alt timeline effected his character, that I'm aware of. Kirk/Spock clearly effected n variances in their characters would be there vs. Org versions.
Again it depends on the individual's viewpoints and what they desire from the characters
Late 90's? They planned a soft-reboot in '93 with Star Trek: The Academy Years. It would have been an X-Men: First Class of it's day, ostensibly in-continuity with the other movies but taking huge liberties with the source material.
Urban loves to stir the pot. Remember him getting in a little trouble for "outing" Ben Cumberbatch as Gary Mitchell in 2013??
That's probably more a prequel than a reboot, but... you've got me there...
Thinking about it now, I remember Paramount had to tell Harve Bennett to include a framing sequence with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. If there was no framing sequence, and it was actually, made, then yeah. Reboot in the early-'90s.
Doing the math in my head: the 2009 reboot could've still come out in 2009. Maybe even a little earlier still. Harve Bennett's Academy Films would've been done long before the millennium.
This situation is great.
Honestly Paramount deserves the blame here. They derailed and essentially ruined their own Star Trek franchise.
They had the perfect clean slate reboot with Star Trek 2009. It went over great. Never in recent decades has Trek been 'cool' and so well received by general audiences.
Then they screwed up all the good will and momentum earned by ST09 by waiting four years before Star Trek Into Darkness launched and disappointed audiences. By then, people just weren't hyped anymore.
That apathy and lack of interest continued into Star Trek Beyond, combined with bad marketing... and Star Trek Beyond, no surprise, was a box office Flop.
Chris Pine most definitely should not take a pay cut here. He is well within his right to walk from this franchise, which has already been driven into the mud.
Sadly, at this point, Paramount should just scrap Star Trek 4. It isn't going to be very profitable for them at the box office at this point. The brand is just damaged.
Honestly Paramount deserves the blame here. They derailed and essentially ruined their own Star Trek franchise.
They had the perfect clean slate reboot with Star Trek 2009. It went over great. Never in recent decades has Trek been 'cool' and so well received by general audiences.
Then they screwed up all the good will and momentum earned by ST09 by waiting four years before Star Trek Into Darkness launched and disappointed audiences. By then, people just weren't hyped anymore.
That apathy and lack of interest continued into Star Trek Beyond, combined with bad marketing... and Star Trek Beyond, no surprise, was a box office Flop.
Chris Pine most definitely should not take a pay cut here. He is well within his right to walk from this franchise, which has already been driven into the mud.
Sadly, at this point, Paramount should just scrap Star Trek 4. It isn't going to be very profitable for them at the box office at this point. The brand is just damaged.
it was 91 to be instead of TUC
Comparing it to XM: FC is interesting though.. had it gone ahead maybe the sequel could've been Days of Future Past with the young Spock Kirk etc encountering their older counterparts
Actually, that was 1990, in the wake of TFF (EDIT: As I see Khan 2.0 just said!). Paramount said they liked the script, but... "We'd like to make just one more with the classic cast for the 25th anniversary - call it September '91 - then we'll do your movie."
Bennett blew up at them, saying "No you won't! I can't get a good enough movie together by then! The old cast will be done after that, and you'll make the Next Generation movie instead!" At which point Bennett was unceremoniously fired, and Nimoy begged to do STVI instead.
Bennett blew up at them, saying "No you won't! I can't get a good enough movie together by then! The old cast will be done after that, and you'll make the Next Generation movie instead!" At which point Bennett was unceremoniously fired, and Nimoy begged to do STVI instead.
OK, OK....if it keeps you lot happy if Hemsworth is not going to do it then i will, you all happy now, just drop £1000 off his top asking price and give me 15/20 years to get into shape and the name of a very good plastic surgeon and a time machine. 
The things i do for you people.
The things i do for you people.
This is mostly the fault of Abrams.
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