Oh I don’t know, I have to go rewatch first two episodes, but i didn’t get the impression he was going to go for peace no matter what. Maybe he wasn’t Churchill, but I didn’t get the impression he was Chamberlain either.
Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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^No wonder Kirk hated being promoted, that Admiral job turns your brains to mush lol
That, and he kept flunking the class "Concocting Nefarious Covert Plans for Fun and Profit".
We all can. It’s off the air atm, just the same as usual for Trek. XD
Actually, Kirk's misadventures in ST3: Search for Spock make a lot of sense in the context of him behaving in the stereotypical insane Admiral fashion.
Honestly, the first three films could almost fall under that category.
Let's give this thread another 200 pages. Maybe someone will change our mind?Still don't see it as Prime.
Let's ask a dumb question: what would make it Prime to those who think otherwise? I mean, by my count, we are well past 200 pages and the only thing gained is increased blood pressure in some and a lot of meme posting.
Well, we haven't gotten to season 2 where the Klingons hijack Starfleet holocommunications and pose as Admiral Cornwell to order an orbital bombardment of Orion, with the Federation discovering the ruse just before the last minute. In an insane overreaction, they ban holographic communications for the next 100 years.Still don't see it as Prime.
As for the Klingons, well we do see how many dogs or cats all look very different, yet still are ultimately dogs or cats. All the other Klingons we've seen before (not counting the Augment virus Klingons) are Siamese cats, now we're seeing the Sphynx cats. It's just a bizarre coincidence that we only see one subset of Klingons at a time. Maybe they don't like to hang out together. :P
My blood pressure is perfectly fine. There is nothing they can really do to change my mind. Well, outside of traveling to the 1960's and producing the show there.
It would be like telling me the current Lost in Space takes place in the same timeline as the original. They can say it. Doesn't mean I'm buying it.
If you get increased blood pressure from an online forum, you're doing it wrong.
And memes are great! We need more.
As to you question what can make STD Prime...
*Detmer* I am detecting a 25% amplitude mega technobabble demodulation wave coming from Sol
*Saru* Evasive action! Raise shields. Contact Pike on the Enterprise. Tell them to raise shields
*Detmer* Shields not responding! Enterprise is not raising shields either.
*Saru* Brace for impact!
*Detmer* Impact in 3...2...1..
*Saru* Status!
*Detmer* Umm, something happened. My uniform... It's different.
*Saru* Look at the screen. The Enterprise... it's changed. It's different somehow...
*Stamets (from engineering)* WTF did you do to the spore drive? It's gone!
*Rhys* I have accessed our database. Klingon ships, sir, They are all different! Klingons, they are all different!. What is going on?
*Saru* I don't know. Contact Starfleet over holocomm.... Wait, where is the holocomm?
*Rhys* Starfleet records also show no major encounter with the Klingons in the last 12 months! Sir, according to this, we were never at war with them!
*Saru* Michael, where are we? Scan for quantum change.... Michael? Michael? Where are you?
*Owosekun* I have checked Starfleet records. There is no record of Michael Burnham every existing. It shows Commander Spock is the only child.
*Tilly* Holly fuck! I like this new timeline.
Problem fixed. The whole scene could take 5 min or so total. Voila, STD is now in Prime universe.
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The blood pressure thing is a joke...I do that
So, follow up question: why debate it?
See above regarding blood pressure.
I agree that we need more memes.
As for your scene, it's interesting but I don't think it quite feels like Star Trek
Interesting you said that. I was basing it in part on Year of Hell (one of the better if not the best VOY episodes)As for your scene, it's interesting but I don't think it quite feels like Star Trek
Unless Jeffrey Hunter is playing Pike and Leonard Nimoy is playing Spock, then is isnt Prime...
Yes, actually within the context of the show itself we do know what universe it takes place in.
There are 3 universes established in Trek that lasted in more than one episode/movie: Mirror Universe, Kelvin Timeline, and Prime Timeline.
We know they aren't in the Mirror universe obviously since the Discovery went there. And we now know from the Discovery Season finale that they aren't in the Kelvin Timeline. How? In the 2009 Star Trek movie in the Kelvin timeline, Pike outright says that the Enterprise NCC-1701 is brand new in 2258. The 2009 film was the Kelvin NCC-1701 maiden voyage.
However, in 2257 in Discovery Pike is already captaining the existing NCC-1701. Therefore, Discovery can't take place in the Kelvin timeline.
Thus, by process of elimination we can deduce that Discovery is in the Prime timeline even if it isn't stated outright on screen.
You are assuming Prime, Mirror and Kelvin are the only universes that exist. Within Star Trek we already know that is not true.
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