TNG Returns!

[Groppler Zorn]

Imagine for a second they pull a Logan and have Picard's entire Next Gen crew die off-screen somewhere between Nemesis and now.

I’m not sure why I find this funny and yet... if they had the guts to do this it’d be awesome

Their might be some crossover stuff with the "Discovery" look but since it's the same people I think that will only make them want to find away to make each show look different. Two "Discovery" looking shows won't benefit either show. I think we will see a difference much in the way you could see some difference between TNG and DS9. Part of me thinks ironically the show might even feel more retro than the prequel to move away form the super futuristic tech people expect from a 24th century show. I always had this theory that futher you set a show in the future the more contempoary your look usually has to be yet if you set something in the near future you can do super futuristic stuff because the contemporary setting will naturally ground it in away that makes it still relatable.

Jason

I suppose the benefit of going 20 years past the latest Trek we’ve ever seen means they can do what they want with the look - they won’t have to fall back on the ol’ “visual reboot” get-out-of-jail-free-card as the visuals will be after anything we’ve seen. I’m actually looking forward to this in a way that I’ve not looked forward to a new Trek show since “Caretaker” aired.

 

[mos6507]

I however expect Trek to progress, not regress.

Discovery and Kelvin aren't progress, though. It's just fashion sins of a whole other sort.

I'm much more concerned of the writing rather than the surface level details.

And in as sci-fi show, the two converge, like the stupid holodeck approach in Discovery leading to Sarek pretending to sit on an imaginary desk.

I think there is sort of a blindspot with TV/film where people sort of accept whatever is deemed hip or cool and only later do people look back and realize how silly and gimmicky this or that look or technique really was.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Discovery and Kelvin aren't progress, though. It's just fashion sins of a whole other sort.

And in as sci-fi show, the two converge, like the stupid holodeck approach in Discovery leading to Sarek pretending to sit on an imaginary desk.

I think there is sort of a blindspot with TV/film where people sort of accept whatever is deemed hip or cool and only later do people look back and realize how silly and gimmicky this or that look or technique really was.

Yeah, we're not on the same page. You're so caught up over silly nitpicks like viewscreen windows and holographic communications. This is what SNL's "Get a Life" practically satires. Is your problem with viewscreen windows just because of its association with the Abrams films you don't like?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I think it's because they know that their audience doesn't think much of the look of current Trek.

The Orville debuted 2 weeks before DSC. Unless you're harping on JJTrek this time, I don't see the connection.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I always assumed that THE ORVILLE looked like TNG for that same reason that YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN looks like an old black-and-white Frankenstein movie. That's part of the joke, and, yeah, for nostalgia's sake.

I've noticed how there's so many fans that adopt THE ORVILLE as if it's another straight forward Star Trek show, instead taking it as its own thing. For example, I've seen so many comments that disregard the inherent MacFarlane style humor "if you took those out, then this would be a straight up Star Trek show", yeah, and if you took them out it would no longer make it THE ORVILLE.

I suspect if MacFarlane were given the keys to create a show under the Star Trek brand without restraints it wouldn't simply be THE ORVILLE minus his brand of humor.

 

[Jayson1]

I wonder what the show will be called I got a few titles:

Picard.

Star Trek:New Era.

Picard the Explorer.

Jason

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Maybe now they will finally give people what they want and that is a Picard with hair. One of those long beards people seem to be into these days.

Picard has left Starfleet to become a hipster who owns a microbrewery / gastropub. He is assisted by Admiral Saavik (retired). One of his main customers is Capt. Bateson.

 

[Jayson1]

You know who I could see them bringing in Guinan. All his TNG family is dead and he is kind of lost and he finds her to get advice or some kind of meaning in his life and she sort of gives him a mission or purpose and then he tries and makes it happen. With some newer and younger characters somehow getting involved as well. It's also possible the pilot episodes has him at a funeral for a former TNG character. Maybe it's his wife Beverly Crusher who has just died. Then you see him go out and find some mission in life.

Jason

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I wonder what the show will be called I got a few titles:

Picard.

Star Trek:New Era.

Picard the Explorer.

Jason

Q! No queuing!

Nah, doesn't work.

 

[Valenti]

I just hope the set designs won't be twice as bad as Disco and the movies if that's even possible, if the same guys have anything to say about it. Twice as dark and gritty too.

 

[Jayson1]

I think the look might have more in common with the Kelvin Universe at least on a set level than Discovery. Full of color and brightness. Or maybe modern Star Wars in that it looks kind of old and retro but is also full of color as well. I could also see a contrast in that the ship or ships are old and kind of bleak but all the alien planets are brightly colored and exotic and alien looking. Also if the show takes place on earth let's say for the first 5 episodes maybe the earth stuff is bright and peaceful looking and feelings but then Picard goes into the space for the story and once you get into deep space it becomes dark and bleak. What if the show starts of like the modern "Lost in Space" in tone and feel and switches geers as the drama and danger heats up into "Alien." The tone doesn't have to be consitent all year long if your doing a season arc and also if your show is not bound to just a single ship.

Jason

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I wonder what the show will be called I got a few titles:

Picard.

Star Trek:New Era.

Picard the Explorer.

Jason

I don’t know. “Jason” seems to be a terrible title. And he wasn’t even really Picard’s son!

Then again, they could make it a father/fake son sitcom with half hour episodes of puns and bickering.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Would anyone be seriously bothered if the Enterprise-E or F or whatever were depicted with the USS Discovery sets? Because that bridge, with two more middle chairs and LCARS graphics would fit right in to the TNG movie era.

 

[mos6507]

Yeah, we're not on the same page. You're so caught up over silly nitpicks like viewscreen windows and holographic communications.

I just find it hypocritical for people to bash the beige carpeting of TNG on the basis of it being "old" while brushing aside awful "new" creative decisions in Discovery and Kelvin on the basis of look and feel being a "silly nitpick". If the look doesn't matter than why should anyone care if it's retro or not?

 

[tomalak301]

Would anyone be seriously bothered if the Enterprise-E or F or whatever were depicted with the USS Discovery sets? Because that bridge, with two more middle chairs and LCARS graphics would fit right in to the TNG movie era.

If the bottom picture is the Enterprise D, I prefer the top photo. The bottom picture is too "roomy" for a bridge.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I think it's quite clear that the Kelvinverse and Discovery aesthetic is a direct evolution of the Enterprise E bridge design. I'm not sure why people complain so much about the former.

 

[cultcross]

I just find it hypocritical for people to bash the beige carpeting of TNG on the basis of it being "old" while brushing aside awful "new" creative decisions in Discovery and Kelvin on the basis of look and feel being a "silly nitpick". If the look doesn't matter than why should anyone care if it's retro or not?

There's nothing inconsistent in thinking TNG looks dated and wanting DSC not to look dated. TNG didn't look dated when it was made, but some definitely want Discovery to.

 

[pst]

Would anyone be seriously bothered if the Enterprise-E or F or whatever were depicted with the USS Discovery sets? Because that bridge, with two more middle chairs and LCARS graphics would fit right in to the TNG movie era.

as great as both those sets are, the new show is going to need to rethink the aesthetic for the 25th century.

 

[F. King Daniel]

as great as both those sets are, the new show is going to need to rethink the aesthetic for the 25th century.

I think there's a limit to how many giant starship bridges they'll be able to afford. Redressed sets is inevitable, as seen throughout the classic and Next Gen movies.

 

[pst]

I think there's a limit to how many giant starship bridges they'll be able to afford. Redressed sets is inevitable, as seen throughout the classic and Next Gen movies.

i just don't know if that flies anymore. anyway, this is going to be a major TV event, they're gonna pull out all the stops and that probably includes massive, expensive new sets. ones that hopefully reflect a 20 year leap in tech.