Disney fires James Gunn from "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3"
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How long is the appropriate punishment for offensive tweets from six-plus years ago?
Based on what careful examination of the moral and social elements to this situation do you pull "a year or two" out of the air? Or does it just sound real good to you?
Also, it seems, the problem with the way the world works today is people assume you are only one thing and can never change.
While I'm puzzled why a 40-plus year old man, who depends on publicity partially to make his living, would make such a juvenile mistake. We have to take into account that he actually committed no crime, and that he took responsibility for actions and apologized. As a result, he lost a high paying, high profile job.
I pretty satisfied with calling it time served and allowing the man to move on with his life.
I pretty satisfied with calling it time served and allowing the man to move on with his life.
Yep. Losing millions of dollars isn’t nothing. I’m puzzled to, but, generally mistakes don’t always have great reasoning behind them.
It's strange. The news about Gunn's Twitter posts were first revealed back in 2012, while he was working on pre-production of "Guardians of the Galaxy". The media made a big brouhaha over it and Gunn apologized and expressed remorse for his Twitter comments. In fact, I found a November 2012 "Hollywood Reporter" article that reported the whole matter. And yet . . . Disney did not fire him back then. But when the Twitter comments were exposed again (the very same comments), this time Disney decides to fire him. Why didn't anyone remind others about what happened six years ago . . . especially since Gunn has not engaged in this behavior in the following six years? He's forgiven in 2012, but not in 2018? Yes, I'm aware of the #MeeToo movement. But this does not strike me as a good excuse for Disney's actions, especially since the studio, the media and the public had forgiven him back in 2012.
Gunn is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb to shut Conservatives up after the Roseanne Barr incident.
Personally, I never knew about it until it was dug up.
The thread is 44 pages deep. I am quite sure everyone has talked about the issue beyond the question of how this effects the quality of the future movie. I am sure I have also talked about how I think forgiveness is important and the trolling that caused the issue to become a issue. Heck we have even talked about the nature of dark humor though some of that might also have been in the,PC off the rails thread. For awhile their both threads felt kind of the same. It's hard to sometimes keep track of what one said in one thread as opposed to another one.
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Forever or Never or Apology depending on who you ask. I am guessing time served because of good behavior since the time those tweets were made don't count for anything. Punishment begins at the moment one first hears about it or remembers it because someone pulls it out of some archive. I'm pretty sure people out their are exploring the ancient history of the internet which is anything pre-Trump election looking for anything to use for leverage to bring people down. It's kind of de-evolved into revenge over the fact that the real assholes kicked our buts where it really counts on election day and they are doing some really evil things and we feel helpless in being able to stop it. The world needs some major liberal victories soon to give people some hope and maybe a better perspective on what this stuff really means in terms of importance.
Jason
47 or 42. Everything else is bullshit!
This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking. I’ll believe it when there’s something official from one of the parties involved.
I agree that it's unlikely, but I do like how the Deadline writer contrasted Disney's rapid reaction to CBS's horribly slow process in dealing with Les Moonves, who may have actually committed multiple crimes.
Once guilty, never innocent, right? A bit of a bromide, but that's just the take away. I think I heard someone remark that there is no due process in the court of public opinion. I have a hard time disagreeing.
Jesus, Disney's PR team must be popping Tums like candy and chasing them with vodka at this point.
Gunn is paying for previous behavior (from 10 - 12 years ago).Hollywood and its strange/inconsistent standards. Yep, Gunn is paying for his previous behaviour. Roseanne too. Yet mention of RDJ and all is forgiven, in fact Hollywood is paying him
Barr is paying for CURRENT (well, very recent in it was just a few months ago) behavior (Which she waffles on admitting she actually did; either blaming people being stupid for not understanding her comedic intent; or that it was Ambien's fault...)
There is a bit of a difference in that Gunn has shown he's changed over the past decade. Barr can't even really own up for what she did.
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Holy fucking shit dude, overreact much. All he did was make a few bad jokes, yes they were disgusting, but it was not even close to "horrifying" or "inexcusable". He's not Howard Weistein, or Roman Polanski.
I never expected anything else re: the script, and I wouldn't be shocked to find out that Feige is looking for some kind of compromise that can keep him around. But that last rumor is just completely moronic. If Disney actually rehires him, they will face the same exact shitstorm no matter what specific movie he's working on. Why on Earth would they subject themselves to that and then not use him for the movie he's most valuable to?
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