I currently pay for Netflix, Hulu, YouTube Red and Amazon Prime. I will likely absorb one more. Probably alternating between CBS All Access and Disney's new service.
“Jean-Luc Picard is back”: will new Picard show eclipse Discovery?
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I currently pay for Netflix, Hulu, YouTube Red and Amazon Prime. I will likely absorb one more. Probably alternating between CBS All Access and Disney's new service.
Their scheme is to make money? Weird...
Disney's streaming service will be stiff competition for all the other streaming services, not just CBSAA. I currently pay for Hulu, Neflix, and CBSAA. I will likely give up one of them if I decide to keep Disney. I can tell you it won't be CBSAA ONLY because I like DSC and Star Trek too much.
As for the part of your post I bolded, I don't think you meant to say what that sentence actually says.
Sounds like what you're saying here is that CBS is looking to supply CBSAA with the type of content that will cause viewers to pay for the service on a monthly basis. I think you may very well have figured out EXACTLY what their scheme is.
More to the point, since when is any business's model NOT to make money?
You beat me to it...
Well, Star Trek was never about making money! GR's vision and all that...or something.
How'd that Zephram Cochrane line in First Contact go again?
In that caseNot nearly as important as that one Picard speech.
THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE! THIS FAR, NO FARTHER!
Speaks volumes on their confidence of STD's ability to draw in subscribers and have them keep their subscriptions. They have to resort to keeping the new Trek content going every month to keep the Trekkies on board. They definitely aren't taking chances with the Disney threat looming ahead.
No shit.
I called it a 'calculated business move' and also referred to it as a 'smart move'.... not a 'scheme'
There's no need for you to twist my words in this manner.
No. It speaks to their understanding that the fanbase already has all the previous treks on other platforms and CBSAA doesn't yet have any other complimentary programming to interest this demographic. The vast majority of people will not subscribe to a service all year long just so they can rewatch the same 15 episodes whenever they want. They watch the show, cancel the subscription, then sign up again when they want to watch again. Giving them lots more trek makes it more tempting to rewatch different things more often, thereby reducing the likelihood of temporary drop-outs.
By the same logic, they could have simply extended STD's episode count if they were so confident in it. Digging up Picard, Spock, Pike, the 1701 and probably a lot more in the near future could show that they know STD isn't compelling enough to keep the Trekkies subscribed and they need to dangle new toys in front of them to keep them on board.
Either way, I personally get to watch all of this for free so thankfully I don't have to pay for this content.
By the same logic, they could have simply extended STD's episode count if they were so confident in it. Digging up Picard, Spock, Pike, the 1701 and probably a lot more in the near future could show that they know STD isn't compelling enough to keep the Trekkies subscribed and they need to dangle new toys in front of them to keep them on board.
Either way, I personally get to watch all of this for free so thankfully I don't have to pay for this content.
Extend it to what? Nobody wants to watch a 26 episode season anymore. People like compact and intense, not drawn out and meandering. And even if you gave them such a season, it wouldn't cover the entire year. The trick is to get different short, intense experiences that are spread out across the year as much as possible. Even just two shows at 15 episodes per season is already significantly more airtime than 1 26 episode show.
There is no Disney ThreatSpeaks volumes on their confidence of STD's ability to draw in subscribers and have them keep their subscriptions. They have to resort to keeping the new Trek content going every month to keep the Trekkies on board. They definitely aren't taking chances with the Disney threat looming ahead.
No shit.
I called it a 'calculated business move' and also referred to it as a 'smart move'.... not a 'scheme'
There's no need for you to twist my words in this manner.
That's like KFC planning to close up the doors because BK comes up with another cheeseburger. People will find a way to stuff their face with both, one, or neither. AND OR NOR.. here:
https://www.coursera.org/learn/logic-introduction
Those of us who like 26 episode seasons don’t really get the option xD
Though Elementary goes on forever in its seasons I think...or may just be me getting behind.
I remember watching Nashville a few years ago. I actually liked the actors, characters, etc. It wasn't amazing, but it was very enjoyable and the music and atmosphere was incredible. But my GOD it dragged on forever.
I don't really have the same problem going back and rewatching old Star Trek or other such things, so I'm pretty sure the real issue (beyond cost) is simply that 26 episode seasons are not at all compatable with a serialized storytelling format. If people today were happy to accept purely episodic fare like TNG, then it would be fine. But they aren't, for the most part. (Some present company excepted, I'm sure)
I think part of that is because much of modern serialised stuff has its roots in the miniseries. Going back to something like Roots or Shogun, the trend has always been there. The problem is that almost any serialised show always has to have a planned end point. Even the ones that go on for bloody ever tend to have that to some extent. GoT had the books as their base for a while. Now they don’t and things have got different. But having a story to tell is important. Stuff like DSC cleaves more to something like the Buffy model (or should do) and I think could stand to go a few more episodes. The writers just need to work on their pacing. The fact we jumped ahead in DSC shows that more could have been done. The fact only one show had a planet in as well. It could have done with an epilogue ending episode, allowing the end more time to breathe. As it stands, some of that first season seems like a feature film plot spread thinly rather than a story dense with detail being told across fifteen episodes. Part of that is because of the glorified extras filling the bridge.
More balance, and the whole thing would have worked better over more episodes.
It was being out out weekly so it’s not like it was planned for binge watching.
Says who?
Honestly Discovery could barely sustain what it did and that was with some severely shortened episodes. It lacked the content to sell 26 episodes.
It had the pieces to make the content. It was just too tight focus and the writers and production team didn’t seem to be up to it some days. Burnham chasing Sarus forgiveness could have been a wider arc involving other or the crew. Tilly’s training was there for all of five minutes passing, and we never really see that relationship build. There’s lots of blanks the audience is having to fill in, then things like the finale get rushed. Ash reconnecting with L’Rell just sort of happens and makes very little sense, but the pieces were there for it to make sense. It just did t happen, because they went for a pace trying to gloss over things and keep excitement in whizz bang.
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