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Spoilers Discovery and the Novelverse - TV show discussion thread

the show could still contradict the novels by referring to something that didn't happen, or saying a character died in the 2380s when they're actually alive, or having the Borg still exist.
Plenty of time for the authors to adapt to that. Just say some “timey whimey” event happens. Their Flashpoint. :)
 
If it preserved the novelverse-then I probably wouldn't be unhappy about losing a trek show.

However Trekkies have often rooted against shows they disliked-there was as much a movement to end enterprise as there was to renew it, I imagine some TOS fans didn't want to see TNG succeed, etc...

I don't wish for the show to fail-based on my particular set of circumstances and preferences I would consider it fortuitous if it never airs and the novelverse continues.

Though I know that's not a sentiment everybody shares and if the show does well-then good for it. I would be depressed about losing the novelverse but I would not be unhappy about the show existing.
 
Nobody would "lose" the novelverse. It might not be continued any longer, but it would still be there to read. And the same people who've been writing it in recent years would probably still be writing whatever new Trek novels took its place.
 
This is a tremendous tie in shmorgasborg for Trek authors. They get to write about everyone and everything that has ever happened in the new mu.
 
However Trekkies have often rooted against shows they disliked-there was as much a movement to end enterprise as there was to renew it, I imagine some TOS fans didn't want to see TNG succeed, etc...
Unfathomable. To me at least !

My least favourite Trek show is Voyager. I've seen every episode at least once and own the DVD boxset...
 
/\Masochist!
(But I know what you mean);).

Despite all the hubbub we must remember that the Treklit community is only a teeny tiny percentage of the Trek audience.
The converse of that is that we are probably the most invested percentage of that audience so maybe a little hubbub is only to be expected.If the Picard show brings the awesome then things will soon change to the new normal.
Calmness everyone.:bolian:
 
Despite all the hubbub we must remember that the Treklit community is only a teeny tiny percentage of the Trek audience.
This is undeniably true.

I'd suggest that if Treklit is not going to come to a hard stop, rather than vainly hope the main parts of the E.U. will be folded in to the new show, it would be better to either have a 'catch all' blanket reset ending (safest) or to use whatever 'in' there exists with Kirsten to help to re-tailor the coming books. Make things match with the new show - if possible.
 
However Trekkies have often rooted against shows they disliked-

Obviously Star Trek fandom is vast and there are always a variety of opinions, but speaking just for me -- I have never, ever rooted against a Star Trek show. Even with my least favorite, VOY, I watched it loyally for six seasons (I hadn't become a Trekkie when VOY Season 1 had originally aired; also, I was 9), and spent the last three seasons hoping it would improve.

there was as much a movement to end enterprise as there was to renew it

As ridiculous as it was, the fan movement to try to save ENT actually managed to get pledges for a couple million dollars. Vastly inadequate to fund the production of a TV show, but I think rather a bit more of a movement to save ENT than to end it.

Though I know that's not a sentiment everybody shares and if the show does well-then good for it. I would be depressed about losing the novelverse but I would not be unhappy about the show existing.

I just think it's silly to hope a new Star Trek TV show fails or never airs, just because it maybe possibly hypothetically theoretically potentially could nullify some aspect of TrekLit.

Especially when that show is being helmed by one of the most talented Star Trek novelists out there!
 
Especially when that show is being helmed by one of the most talented Star Trek novelists out there!
I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned more in this thread.
All we know (and pretty much all that has been developed) is that there will be a series with Picard in it, that's it.

Maybe Beyer pushed to get this show made precisely because she wanted litverse continuity to be made on screen canon.

Anyone think of that?

(Ps, I'm a bit behind on these discussions so my apologies if anyone actually has.)
 
I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned more in this thread.
All we know (and pretty much all that has been developed) is that there will be a series with Picard in it, that's it.

Maybe Beyer pushed to get this show made precisely because she wanted litverse continuity to be made on screen canon.

Anyone think of that?

(Ps, I'm a bit behind on these discussions so my apologies if anyone actually has.)

I mean...I definitely want that to be the case...
 
Maybe Beyer pushed to get this show made precisely because she wanted litverse continuity to be made on screen canon.

Anyone think of that?

First off, I'd say that's not the way Kirsten thinks. She puts the good of the story she's telling first and continuity with other stories second. I'm well aware of that because she chose to ignore my depictions of Species 8472 and the Tamarians in her own Voyager work, and she explained to me her reasons for doing so. (Although she did consult me about the DTI and time-travel stuff for her more recent VGR novels.)

And second, just because Kirsten had the initial idea that led to this show, that doesn't mean she has total creative control over it. She's the co-creator, but she isn't high enough in the producer ranks yet to be the showrunner. This will mainly be Alex Kurtzman's show, with Patrick Stewart probably having a lot of creative input as well. If, hypothetically, Stewart wants to play a Picard who, say, regrets that he never married or had a child, or who's haunted by the knowledge that the Borg are still out there assimilating worlds, then nobody is going to tell him "No, you can't do that because of something in some books that most of the TV audience has never heard of." Kirsten may be able to inject some novelverse concepts into the mix if she thinks they're useful to the show, but they'd be just one ingredient in a creative process that would have ideas coming from Kurtzman, Stewart, Michael Chabon, James Duff, and others as well, so they'd probably come out somewhat altered.
 
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