Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

[OCD Geek]

Mid-August: "Oh, shit. The Picard miniseries is still a year and a half to two years away. That's plenty of time to, worst case scenario, wrap up the novelverse's loose ends with several books."

September: "Oh God! A new Trek animated series was announced. The novelverse is once again doomed!"

Also September: "Oh. It's a non-canon buddy comedy starting Mudd and Quark. We're good."

 

[JD]

I can see where you’re going with this but I don’t believe that watchers of a tv series should need to read novels to understand what is happening in the series.

In fact, it might be counterproductive. Casual viewers might be put off watching the series if they think they have to read a lot of novels to understand what’s going on.

If they did use the books, there's a 13 year gap between when the show starts and the most recent books, so most of the details of the books probably wouldn't have much of a direct impact on the show's story. Most of the big picture is easy enough to explain with a quick sentence or two, and for people not interested in books most of it just can just be written off as the way things change over 22 years.

 

[thribs]

As long as Destiny happened. I don't want them using the Borg.

 

[Jinn]

Well, they did say that we wouldn't get Captain Picard, so I'm at least a bit hopeful that the Borg won't be directly involved.

 

[thribs]

He’s going to be more like Director Bullock in this I bet.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Let's say they canonize the 24th century novelverse and they want to use the Borg. Would it be even possible to bring back the Borg without timetravel? How could they be reintroduced?

And by the way, will the show start on Netflix in Europe at the same time as on CBS All Access in the US, like it was with Discovery?

 

[Jinn]

Let's say they canonize the 24th century novelverse and they want to use the Borg. Would it be even possible to bring back the Borg without timetravel? How could they be reintroduced?

Spoiler: Story possiblity thingy (DON'T WATCH AUTHORS!!!!)

Turnjs out that the Borg consciousness wasn't actually destroyed but absorbed into the Caeliar, where it started to revolt and eventually return to the galaxy in the year [whenever the story needs to take place]

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Spoiler: Story possiblity thingy (DON'T WATCH AUTHORS!!!!)

Turnjs out that the Borg consciousness wasn't actually destroyed but absorbed into the Caeliar, where it started to revolt and eventually return to the galaxy in the year [whenever the story needs to take place]

Hey, that's a really great idea and also a good way to refang and change back the Borg into what they were before First Contact and Voyager.

 

[Jinn]

Hey, that's a really great idea and also a good way to refang and change back the Borg into what they were before First Contact and Voyager.

I'm glad someone likes it Personally, I'd of course rather see the Borg stay dead but if they come back it's probably better if time travel isn't involved.

 

[GhostLoveScore]

Spoiler: Story possiblity thingy (DON'T WATCH AUTHORS!!!!)

Turnjs out that the Borg consciousness wasn't actually destroyed but absorbed into the Caeliar, where it started to revolt and eventually return to the galaxy in the year [whenever the story needs to take place]

That would make them unstoppable for sure. I don't know if it would make interesting show where one side is much more powerful.

 

[Jinn]

That would make them unstoppable for sure. I don't know if it would make interesting show where one side is much more powerful.

Well, isn't that kinda the whole point of the Borg? Plus, that backstory wouldn't be in the show anyway, just in the novels.

 

[GhostLoveScore]

Well, isn't that kinda the whole point of the Borg? Plus, that backstory wouldn't be in the show anyway, just in the novels.

Maybe. Imagine Picard asking Q for help with new Borg. Actually if they were to form into Borg again I don't know if even Q would be able to stop them. He was pretty angry when he said to his son to no to mess with the Borg.

 

[thribs]

The Q are like the Ancients in Stargate. They’re supposed to get involved in “lesser life forms”. The Q was different was that he was testing Picard.
They wouldn’t help if they were to come back.

 

[JoeZhang]

Spoiler: Another option (DON'T WATCH AUTHORS!!!!)

"Picard: The borg! but you were absorbed into the Caeliar"

Borg: "Was that in the books? I never read the books"

 

[thribs]

They wouldn’t need to. They just need to assimilate someone who has.

 

[Jinn]

Maybe. Imagine Picard asking Q for help with new Borg. Actually if they were to form into Borg again I don't know if even Q would be able to stop them. He was pretty angry when he said to his son to no to mess with the Borg.

Oh, I like this new series we know absolutely nothing about less and less by the minute... I always took the "Don't mess with the Borg, son" as either that it could lead to the Borg go on a rampage of sorts or that they could maybe try to assimilate him or kinda parts of him and that would make them more powerful. If Q wanted to stop them I'm sure he could just blink them out of existance with a single snap.

They wouldn’t need to. They just need to assimilate someone who has.

"We are the Borg. Your physical and electronical books will be added to our own. Cliffhangers are futile."

 

[Scout101]

I don't think that assuming that Beyer's first inclination was to build the concept for this show around the post-Nemesis novelverse because she herself came to Trek TV from the world of Trek tie-in novels is a wise thing to do.

Good thing I didn't say (or think) that. I was just saying that having the show creator come from the litverse can only HELP the odds. if they're looking to beef up Picard's backstory, seems slightly more likely to grab from the books, at least in general terms, rather than invent something else. May very well STILL go in another direction, but it's gotta increase the odds that it's at least influenced by the books. If they're going to give him a kid, better chance of being Rene if it's a book writer compared to random Producer flavor of the month. Can't see how they do a Picard show without addressing Beverly in some manner or other, we'll see how that goes too. Could argue that AGT and the novels don't conflict with regards to how that relationship goes just yet, so nothing says they have to still be together, etc. Just saying having Beyer onboard can only help the odds of the books not being TOTALLY dismissed. Never expected them to be the show bible.

again, unless the story she wants to tell is totally in another direction, in which case it doesn't matter where Beyer came from, and they'll go in the trash bin like the Star Wars books did. We'll see when details start getting leaked i guess.

 

[rahullak]

It would probably be a business decision. Which path will provide the highest returns - leveraging the books in a full or limited fashion, hoping that the numbers say that people are expecting it and book revenues could also increase, or ignore the books completely since the numbers go against it and people are expecting something fresh and new without having to read all those books?

 

[Scout101]

doesn't have to be either or. I'm sure they'll move forward like the books don't exist, they won't make decisions based upon that. Of course, the series writers have ability to pull anything they like from the books at will, so if there are bits that work for them, sure they will consider using them. Almost definitely won't be used as whole cloth, but decent chance that at least parts will make it through, at least in some fashion. But if the show wants Borg, they're going to use Borg, doesn't matter what the books did. Etc. Hoping some of the character bits, like Beverly/Rene, may make it through even if the end result is different than the books would have done.

 

[valkyrie013]

Well just like Star wars, after the "Big Buy" there novel universe became "Legends", however, didn't stop everybody from picking and choosing what they liked from the book series and then reset it as "cannon" Like Thrawn. ( Which I hope, hope HOPE, appears in that new Star Wars TV series.. with Ashoka and Ezra.. )
So they are proably going to pick and choose on what happens. Just hope they don't throw out the bathwater..