Rumor has it they (CBS) are paying Patrick Stewart $20 million dollars for the first season. They aren't doing that for him to be the kidney.
Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)
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Rumor has it they (CBS) are paying Patrick Stewart $20 million dollars for the first season. They aren't doing that for him to be the kidney.
What the hell does that even mean? A kidney is still vital to one's health, arguably just as much as the heart.
A 24th century revival show is not going to allow what was written in the novels to stand in the way of using the Borg.
"The borg were destroyed off-screen in a convoluted adventure we aren't going to get into" doesn't not make good TV.
Of course, you also don't have to mention the borg if it's not where you want the story to go. Perfectly fine with leaving them alone, which can be read as either working with the novels, or just ignoring both the novels and the borg. Nothing forces them to mention the borg, so you don't have to bring up the books unless you want to go that route.
It's gotta at least help that the show creator is also a Trek novel writer, so inclination would be to not throw out everything unless it was needed for the story they are trying to tell. Not saying it will be a perfect fit, but all other things being equal they'd be just as inclined to use the existing backstory instead of making up a new one.
We'll see where the stories go with Picard's little coup dustup, and any other existing plot lines. Maybe that leads into where this wants to go, or maybe not. Beyer has done well enough with the VOY series that I'm more than willing to see how this plays out and trust she won't screw us....
It's gotta at least help that the show creator is also a Trek novel writer, so inclination would be to not throw out everything unless it was needed for the story they are trying to tell. Not saying it will be a perfect fit, but all other things being equal they'd be just as inclined to use the existing backstory instead of making up a new one.
We'll see where the stories go with Picard's little coup dustup, and any other existing plot lines. Maybe that leads into where this wants to go, or maybe not. Beyer has done well enough with the VOY series that I'm more than willing to see how this plays out and trust she won't screw us....
I don't think that assuming that Beyer's first inclination was to build the concept for this show around the post-Nemesis novelverse because she herself came to Trek TV from the world of Trek tie-in novels is a wise thing to do.
We know so little about it it seems like this is going to be quite different to me. I don't think it's even been technically described as a "Star Trek" series. Someone mentioned earlier it could be Picard as an archaeologist which seems likely. I can even see it being a sci-fi drama about a French vineyard... It's clearly going to have implications for Picard as a character - but the books should have a good few years to get him to where he needs to be, unless the show uses flashbacks heavily. I really don't expect we'll be learning much of the world beyond the bubble the show lives in.
The one advantage to using the books is that it would be good, pre-written backstory, and if people really want to learn that backstory, then there's an easy way for them to do that without having to take time away from the show or write new novels.
If the show is in fact set 20 years after Nemesis/13 years after the current books, then they wouldn't even be that limited since that is plenty of time for things to change. If they really wanted to use the Borg, that is plenty of time for them to even come back. They wouldn't necessarily haven't to address their return on the show, just have them around and then leave it to the books to show how they came back.
If the show is in fact set 20 years after Nemesis/13 years after the current books, then they wouldn't even be that limited since that is plenty of time for things to change. If they really wanted to use the Borg, that is plenty of time for them to even come back. They wouldn't necessarily haven't to address their return on the show, just have them around and then leave it to the books to show how they came back.
No - I'll leave this thread open (I came straight here from the notification, so I haven't seen the rest of the forum - if there are other Picard threads, they'll either get closed or merged into one) - I have no issue with discussion and speculation on something upcoming - with the usual warnings about story ideas, and the Picard series is separate to the Discovery series.
Thank you.
I think there may be a hidden stroke of brilliance in leveraging the extant LitVerse continuity, and possibly new lead-in literary works (late 2019 and early 2020) leading up to the new Picard series.
CBS *just* renegotiated the Trek license with Pocket Books.
If a new Picard series comes out, and CBS does a marketing campaign and lets it be known that "you can learn what happened in between Nemesis and the new series" by reading all these novels, and then Pocket does re-prints... Suddenly you have created a way to boost novel sales by selling a huge run of reprint books that are "new" to the new audience, but without the usual costs of actually contracting authors and writing fresh material.
It gives the back catalog of Trek novels a new lease on life, and (pie in the sky here) just maybe saves TrekLit because Kirsten Beyer is an incredible freaking genius? Maybe??
I feel like it would be select books only.
I can see where you’re going with this but I don’t believe that watchers of a tv series should need to read novels to understand what is happening in the series.
In fact, it might be counterproductive. Casual viewers might be put off watching the series if they think they have to read a lot of novels to understand what’s going on.
Not if it was marketed as optional. "Extra adventures." Or "Here's the detailed story of that Section 31 incident from Picard's past that got flashbacks in episode 3" kind of thing.
Well the underlying assumption in many of these conversations is that all fans wants to see the current litverse carry on - I think it ran out of steam about five years ago and think it's time for something new.
Okay, that's a subjective opinion and you're allowed to have it of course. I'm not making the assumption that all fans want LitVerse continuity, my assertion is that many of us do.
Well of course that goes without saying - however it is often presented as that is the only viewpoint - other viewpoints exists.
You hit the nail on the head. But good news for TrekLit fans, René will be an important character in the new show...
You heard it here first.
After all, it worked out great for Shatner.
Oh, wait, no it didn't.
I've been hoping for something similar, perhaps even tying into that anthology rumor that was floating around. You could have a present-day plotline with Picard investigating something, and a flashback storyline about whatever caused those ruins to become ruins in Trek history.
Counterpoint:
"Was this before the Klingons joined the Federation?"
"That's right..." "...Blah, blah, blah, I giggled like a schoolgirl after I got stabbed through the heart. Life's funny sometimes."
That sounds like one hell of a couple stories that they didn't even know they were going to make eventually (well, I guess they never have done one of them, unless Picard has been lying about his age). Yet, somehow, they weren't too terrified that someone might want to give them money to find out what the deal was that they cut it out of the script.
Though I guess, "Was this before the Klingons suffered an ecological catastrophe the led to them suing for peace with the Federation, and which was nearly derailed by a cabal of hard-line Starfleet and Klingon officials who carried out a campaign of assassinations and terror attacks to preserve the militarized status quo?" is more like what you expect a series incorperating novelverse concepts to do. Come to think of it, actually, how is "The Best of the Both Worlds" any less convoluted than anything that's happened in the novelverse, and we all expect them to take another bite at that apple? Or Chief O'Brian turning out to be a racist, PTSD-riddled veteran four seasons into TNG (which had been taking place during a war they didn't deign to mention to the audience)?
I think that happened to televised Trek twenty years ago, and yet, somehow, here we are still trying to make it be 1991 again, because no one can bear to let go of The Next Generation, whether it's 70,000 light-years from the Federation, a hundred years before Kirk, or an entirely new production team. Now I'm just hoping that continuing down this path actually pays off at some point, and I feel like a decent way of helping that along would be looking at the most consistently high-quality Trek stories in this century, and the only ones that have been able to effectively build on TNG's legacy rather than having it be the millstone dragging it down.
July: 'There's been no news for a year! The novelverse is DOOOOOOMED!'
August: 'Contracts are back up! The novelverse is saved!!!!'
Also August: 'Captain Picard is returning! The novelverse is DOOOOOOMED!'
August: 'Contracts are back up! The novelverse is saved!!!!'
Also August: 'Captain Picard is returning! The novelverse is DOOOOOOMED!'
