My only issue with that joke, is Star Trek Beyond already did it... recently. And it seems lazy to reuse it so soon.
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My only issue with that joke, is Star Trek Beyond already did it... recently. And it seems lazy to reuse it so soon.
Or Hello. Soon as they pick up the phone it's 'Okay here is the plan" or "What do you want" Granted they should add the scenes were people simply screen their calls and instead of calling they sent text messages instead. One of these days people are going to start using their phone part of their phones, again. It has to happen.
Jason
Those people are not your friends.
McCoy broke into Spock's "Security sealed" quarters (granted Spock was inside him)
Maybe Spock left a message for Pike to contact Michael if he failed to check-in or return?
Scott Bakula?!
I think this is the first time Trek has brought in a new regular character who has been the Series Lead of his own long-running series before.
I meant a new regular character, but yes, you're right Scott was a series lead before.
Talented actor. Miscast as Archer, but great on Quantum Leap.
Talented actor. Miscast as Archer, but great on Quantum Leap.
The Romulans, also, were called upon with lesser regularity to bring spice into the lives of our STAR TREKian heroes. But I was always more interested in the new species TNG put in the pot and, fortunately, the pot got stirred, a lot. The Bajorans are a TNG invention and where would this franchise be without the Borg? Or Ferengi like Quark? All of these and more are very good additions to the lexicon of STAR TREK. So, maybe I misspoke myself when I said TNG didn't rely much on TOS, but it brought so much more to the table that was their own. And I still maintain that Discovery should, as well. But ... we're looking at Spock and Pike appearing in Season 2. We've already seen Harry Mudd in action and STD is even drawing on obscure aliens found in TMP. That should be enough TOS callbacks for anyone. Let's see Discovery put a little effort in and veer away from nostalgia, for a long while.
Can anyone read Vulcan?
Log 1- The J.J particle
Log 2- The Search for Kirk
Log 3- My logical version of " The Final Frontier"
I think it was humor...."real" football versus American football.
I think you mean handegg.
Your season arc vs full-series arc position is precisely the same as my episode arc vs season arc position, because if one idea is crap (Klingon war...), they can just change it for the next episode. Also, it means each episode plot has a logical beginning, middle, and end - and doesn't meander around (I like DSC, but it was obvious they didn't know what they were doing with Cornwell or L'Rell in several episodes). Also, a clean break allows for new viewers to come in easier with each new episode, while it still allows for continuing plots over the whole season or series to be handled as "side-plots".
I don't disagree with you, except I think DS9 handled their arcs far more delicately and the seasons and episodes still worked on their own (though yes, Garak, Dukat, and Winn had a lot of wheel spinning towards the end).
No, I specifically said "prime" Pike. As for "Kelvin" Pike, M-A mentions backstory from various sources suggesting he was born around 2205, putting him in a much more paternal rather than fraternal position vis-a-vis Kirk. (Just one more indication that the Abrams reboot had implications predating 2233!...)
It was a mixed bag, as one might expect. The Borg were a fascinating adversary that got diluted through overuse; I liked Bajorans in the form of Ro and especially Kira, and collectively in their allegorical role as a stand-in for various occupied populations, but not so much for the over-the-top religious baggage; I never cared for Ferengi (even though a species designed to represent capitalism's flaws sounds fascinating) and always found the humor involving them to be painfully forced.
Where DSC is concerned, it's a prequel, so expectations are unavoidable different. The appeal to nostalgia is a feature, not a bug; a prequel is supposed to involve elements that are already familiar from the original source material. One can hope that it does so faithfully (very mixed bag so far) and not obsessively (ditto) — obviously it's a tricky balance to strike — but those elements are definitely going to be prominent. Indeed, it would feel conspicuous to avoid them. That said, I agree that there's plenty of room to introduce New Stuff to the 2250s in ways that wouldn't impinge on anything we know from TOS.
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I have to admit that I didn't care for the makeups of the Ferengi, particularly that Rear Curtain Hat ... thing ... most of them had to wear (but fortunately, not Quark). And I'm not sure that representing the supposed flaws of Capitalism looks good on paper, myself. There is nothing, at all, wrong with making money and having power. Churchill once said, famously, “It is not enough that we do our best; sometimes we must do what is required.” And if I want my kid to have the best, what is required is that I have a lot of what it takes to get along. And entertainment is fond of knocking the wealthy, like Scrooge and other stories like that. These wealthy folks need to know what's important - like family! Well ... having a family doesn't come cheap and it sure as hell ain't free. So, I never could relate to this concept.
The Ferengi makeup was always their real problem, for me and the way they were kind of annoyingly presented. All fidgety and nasal and everything ... and those costumes. But they could also crack me up, as they did in TNG's "The Last Outpost." And what Armin Shimerman was able to do with them was amazing. DS9 could not afford to lose him, that's what a difference he made. But I don't want to see Discovery keep working a bad idea until the right actor comes along and spins it the right way. I know that's always a risk, introducing new species ... that they just don't work. But if the show's heart's in the right place and the effort behind it is evident, much of that is forgivable ...
The Ferengi makeup was always their real problem, for me and the way they were kind of annoyingly presented. All fidgety and nasal and everything ... and those costumes. But they could also crack me up, as they did in TNG's "The Last Outpost." And what Armin Shimerman was able to do with them was amazing. DS9 could not afford to lose him, that's what a difference he made. But I don't want to see Discovery keep working a bad idea until the right actor comes along and spins it the right way. I know that's always a risk, introducing new species ... that they just don't work. But if the show's heart's in the right place and the effort behind it is evident, much of that is forgivable ...
If they have the Klingons in a trailer, they should have "Du Hast" by Rammstein. Or they should play GWAR.
I don't remember a snot joke in Beyond but then I've only seen it one time. Where was it?
There’s the bit where Keenser sneezes - they use it to break out of the prison cell on the planet.
Ah, ok. Now I remember it. Thanks.
I'd argue the Disco joke works better because it takes something mundane -- who hasn't been sneezed on in an enclosed space? -- and makes it absurd because aliens.
It's the variety of humor that's always worked best on Star Trek.
I'd even argue it's those sort of jokes that work best on Orville, as opposed to MacFarlane more traditional vaudevillesque style.
*I should clarify that by "aliens" I really mean anything science-fictiony. The TVH jokes are of the same breed, for example.
It's the variety of humor that's always worked best on Star Trek.
I'd even argue it's those sort of jokes that work best on Orville, as opposed to MacFarlane more traditional vaudevillesque style.
*I should clarify that by "aliens" I really mean anything science-fictiony. The TVH jokes are of the same breed, for example.
Awkward elevator conversations, I get. But I'm pretty sure I don't remember ever having been sneezed on in an enclosed space, so maybe I can't relate. Regardless, it's juvenile gross-out humor, and and I just don't find it funny, and never have. Obviously YMMV, but that kind of thing is actually what I like least about The Orville.
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