While I never really liked the idea that McCoy had euthanized his father (mainly because there'd never been any hint of this or the pain that resulted from it before - same as Spock suddenly having a brother we've never heard of), Kelley's performance during that scene was brilliant. It was a great demonstration of just how good an actor he was.I'll say one thing for Star Trek 5, in 'McCoy's Pain' DeForest Kelley delivers the best performance in the whole franchise.
They wouldn't even have gotten the "C" unit; they were busy with Back to the Future II and III. In fact, I seem to remember hearing that unit, which had handled Treks II-IV was essentially block-booked for three consecutive years (between the two BTTF sequels and Who Framed Roger Rabbit) - so, the man actually to blame for TFF's downfall was none other than Robert Zemeckis!Yeah. I believe that ILM's "A" unit was booked for Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and their "B" unit was busy with Ghostbusters 2. So STV would've gotten ILM's "C" unit. And of course they couldn't also get Connery because he had already taken the Henry Jones part in Last Crusade.
And the plot was the overly done Roddenberry-ish Coming To Terms With God-issues thing.The main complaints against TFF seem to be that it's humor was too broad and/or forced (slapstick humor in SF/F tends to be derided though I usually like it including in the film) and it's too full of Kirk/Shatner-worship, with pretty much everyone and everything else made to look pretty bad (as part of that, how underwhelming and even unexplored the betrayals/mind control of the rest of the crew was). The other big complaint was that in addition to underwhelming/inconsistent story and tone it visually looked cheap.
Personally, i don't see anything wrong with this. Previously I commented that the strange thing was seeing Kirk, Spock and Bones all resist Sybok, even though no one else did.Had Bill Shatner gotten his way with the script he wanted to film, the entire crew -- that includes Spock & Bones -- would've betrayed Kirk to follow Sybok ... willingly. Effectively making TFF all about Kirk's heroic exploits as a Man Who Walks Alone.
Source?Had Bill Shatner gotten his way with the script he wanted to film, the entire crew -- that includes Spock & Bones -- would've betrayed Kirk to follow Sybok ... willingly.
Yes, I saw the Keonig interview, also. Because TOS' movies were so long ago, the Shat and everyone can talk with complete frankness about those days, now. But Walter does make the point that A) the 2nd bananas did NOT come forward with their concerns/complaints about Shatner and that B) this was also the result of the fact that, regardless, Bill was in a position to exclude any of the 2nd bananas from being in the next movie (when, unlike Shatner, the Trek movies was pretty much all they had going. Take that away and they're on food stamps). But I also agree that there was a lot of misunderstanding, in those days, mainly because there was a kind of a "wall" between them and Shatner. Talking to Shatner about what they saw, or felt, he was doing -- directly -- wasn't going to be possible. They just didn't have that sort of rapport with him and Shatner probably wasn't that interested in knowing them, then, anyway.On the Shat ego thing, it's interesting to hear the interview that Shatner did with Koenig on his talk show. It's also interesting to hear interviews of Eddie Paskey who played Leslie and other characters on the show. I think these cases are often a situation where the truth is somewhere in the middle and people often misinterpret others motivations, and sometimes people do not take the care to think of or check on other's feelings.
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