Spoilers Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - Review and Discussion

[Locutus of Bored]

I mentioned in my post that they were obviously hard up for cash in order to get quick funds for their R&D where the real money would be made.

That doesn't mean you should sell a dinosaur for less than one of Jackson Pollock's explosive paint vomits.

 

[Gepard]

I know you mentioned it, I just think they're in a much tighter bind than you seemed to. Like, I don't think it's unbelievable or even unreasonable that they'd sell the dinos for low low prices if they can't afford to pay their contractors.

If I misinterpreted your critique, I apologise. It's just a complaint I've seen a LOT (and often more harsh than yours), so I felt like writing down my thoughts.

 

[FreezeC77]

The only positive for me is that the original T-Rex lives and was part of the escape. The script wasn't very good and a lot of the characters acted ridiculously stupid at times?

BTW, many people criticize Vin Diesel as just being "Vin Diesel" in every movie. Chris Pratt is really going that way.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

BTW, many people criticize Vin Diesel as just being "Vin Diesel" in every movie. Chris Pratt is really going that way.

He's gradually playing slightly smarter goofy lovable idiot characters with each new role. His Jurassic World character is allegedly supposed to be of average intelligence. Maybe in twenty years he'll be playing a goofy lovable mathematician.

Plus, he's impervious to superheated ash clouds and molten lava that's six inches away from his body, which is always a bonus.

 

[Trekker4747]

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[Turd Ferguson]

I saw this last night and enjoyed it, but I was wondering... maybe I missed it, but everyone's acting like Isla Nublar blowing up is the second extinction of the dinosaurs. So, what happened to the dinos on Isla Sorna?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I saw this last night and enjoyed it, but I was wondering... maybe I missed it, but everyone's acting like Isla Nublar blowing up is the second extinction of the dinosaurs. So, what happened to the dinos on Isla Sorna?

I figured all the surviving dinosaurs from Isla Sorna were transplanted to Isla Nublar to populate the new park.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

So I wonder what ended up happening to the Spinosaur? And I wonder how she would have fared against either the Indominus Rex or the Indoraptor?

 

[Trekker4747]

I figured all the surviving dinosaurs from Isla Sorna were transplanted to Isla Nublar to populate the new park.

But could they not move the animals back to Isla Sorna?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

But could they not move the animals back to Isla Sorna?

Turns out, a completely different volcano destroyed Isla Sorna right before they wanted to move the dinosaurs back there. Nature finds a way to fuck dinosaurs over again.

You got me, man. When corporate hack who's obviously going to turn out to be evil started talking about moving them to a new island, I kept expecting Claire to give the audience a bit of expository dialogue about why they can't just move them to Isla Sorna/Site-B, since it was turned into a dinosaur nature preserve protected by the military anyway, and he would say something like "Because the island's plants caught a disease that gave all the herbivores explosive diarrhea, which in turn gave all the carnivores who ate them explosive diarrhea, so the Navy just said fuck it and nuked the sight from orbit rather than deal with the cleanup. It's the circle of life. But you should have known that already because you're the Save the Dinosaurs lady."

 

[Trekker4747]

Boy, John Hammond really dropped that ball!

Seriously, the "active volcano going off" thing is probably one of the stupidest elements of these movies. All of this time the island had an active volcano on it?! WTF?! And one that apparently when it erupts will obliterate all life on the island instead of just sort of being annoying and setting some flora on fire?

Ugh.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

The news report said that the volcano had been dormant but had recently become active. Still, probably not too smart to build an expensive tourist resort with expensive dinosaurs on it around any sort of volcano

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Boy, John Hammond really dropped that ball!

Seriously, the "active volcano going off" thing is probably one of the stupidest elements of these movies. All of this time the island had an active volcano on it?! WTF?! And one that apparently when it erupts will obliterate all life on the island instead of just sort of being annoying and setting some flora on fire?

In fairness to the movies, both novels stated that the islands were both volcanic, so it didn't originate with them. Isla Nublar was said to have volcanic plumes rising from the south end of the island, and Isla Sorna was run on geothermal power from the magma pocket right beneath it. At least Jurassic World 2 mentioned that the volcano was thought to be dormant until recently, as mentioned above.

http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Isla_Nublar_(Novel_canon)
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Isla_Sorna_(Movie_canon)

 

[Beagleman]

The news report said that the volcano had been dormant but had recently become active. Still, probably not too smart to build an expensive tourist resort with expensive dinosaurs on it around any sort of volcano

Ever been to Hawaii? ...they do have Dinosaurs there, right...?

 

[marillion]

^^ Exactly.. Minus said dinosaurs, Hawai'i is definitely feeling the effects.

Saw this last night and I have to say I was highly entertained. They tried to "Lost World" it by bringing the critters home... I actually found the plot pretty good and was really happy this wasn't just another chase movie. The dino-fights were fun and the FX were pretty top notch. The subplot with the little girl, I didn't see coming. Hopefully in part III that will be expanded upon, plot-wise. It was just kind of hurried off the table in FK because they were in the middle of trying to save their own necks.

While I agree that Pratt's starting to come off as a one-note kind of actor, but hell.. He's ALWAYS acted this way. I like him as an actor, and I'm one of the few that actually really liked Passengers, so take what I say with a grain of salt. LOL..

 

[Locutus of Bored]

The subplot with the little girl, I didn't see coming. Hopefully in part III that will be expanded upon, plot-wise. It was just kind of hurried off the table in FK because they were in the middle of trying to save their own necks.

The weird part of the subplot with the little girl is that her cloning was said to be the thing that caused John Hammond to end his partnership and friendship with Farmer Hoggett... Except John Hammond died over twenty years ago in-universe, and the little girl looks to be about ten years old.

It's easy enough to come up with an explanation, but somehow I doubt they put that much thought into it. I figure Hammond found out Cromwell was going to use his research for human cloning to bring his daughter back, and that's what tore them apart, but it actually took another decade for the technology to be perfected. Alternatively, she might not be the first clone he created, and the previous one had rapid aging that killed her early.

 

[Spot's Meow]

I liked it, gave it an A-. One of my complaints is, as others have mentioned, the low prices at which the dinosaurs were selling. We should be talking at least billions here.

My other complaint, also mentioned several times by others, is this whole plot to use dinosaurs as weapons. It's just absurd, and like someone else pointed out we already have ferocious beasts living on this planet (lions, bears, etc.) that we don't draft into our wars, for good reason. Dinosaurs wouldn't be any different. But I get it, they need some reason more than just "because" for the bad guys to be bad, and this is the useful and non-controversial plot device that they have chosen.

Putting all that aside, I found the movie to be quite entertaining. Jurassic World was better, but thankfully this sequel was better than the sequels we got to Jurassic Park. I especially liked the little girl, the revelation about her, and that she pressed the button at the end. Her motivations for doing so make total sense, and I was hoping that someone would press it, even though it would completely fuck up the world. I too hope that they will further explore the human cloning aspect, but somehow I doubt it.

I was highly entertained, so I'm satisfied, even though it wasn't perfect.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie, but the plot does kind of fall apart if you think about it too much. I understand the reason Mills didn't relocate the dinos back to Isla Sorna or any other of La Cinco Muertes, being a smokescreen to look like he's an animal rights activist while also selling carnivores for profit.

My question is, all these countries lining up to buy the dinos for tens of millions... why didn't they just go to Isla Nublar and harvest the dinos themselves at a fraction of the cost at any time over the three years? I know Blue was the prized asset being sought after, and none of the countries knew of the Indoraptor. I'm talking about the countries who bought the ankylosaur and were interested in the allosaurus. These animals could easily(?) have been wrangled and brought home at any time without dealing with that prick Mills.

Also, what stopped the pteranodons from flying to the mainland before the end of Fallen Kingdom?

 

[marillion]

Maybe too far to fly for one trip? I mean, who knows how far a pteranodon could really fly all at once without having to stop.

 

[Solariabsg25]

Turns out, a completely different volcano destroyed Isla Sorna right before they wanted to move the dinosaurs back there. Nature finds a way to fuck dinosaurs over again.

You got me, man. When corporate hack who's obviously going to turn out to be evil started talking about moving them to a new island, I kept expecting Claire to give the audience a bit of expository dialogue about why they can't just move them to Isla Sorna/Site-B, since it was turned into a dinosaur nature preserve protected by the military anyway, and he would say something like "Because the island's plants caught a disease that gave all the herbivores explosive diarrhea, which in turn gave all the carnivores who ate them explosive diarrhea, so the Navy just said fuck it and nuked the sight from orbit rather than deal with the cleanup. It's the circle of life. But you should have known that already because you're the Save the Dinosaurs lady."

When they introduced the Spinosaurous in JPIII, the film-makers said they wanted to introduce a super-predator that could actually cause an extinction on Isla Sorna. Considering the fact that the Spino wasn't on Ingen's official list, it could well be that Wu was up to his tricks long before Jurassic World and Hammond was actually unaware the existence of his little side project. So, Hammond died not realising that his "nature preserve" was little more than a buffet.